Alternatives to the Triton (ute)

[Lunny]

50k in 18months, running 33s since new. No problems.

70000 in 12 months - No problems... good old triton... lol

[chick_magnet_0001]

I'm at 182k still on first clutch, never had a break down or problem and still goes the same it does as when I drove it out the door from new... They are all good cars these days.. imo I wouldn't buy the first new model of any car...

[chick_magnet_0001]

I'm at 182k still on first clutch, never had a break down or problem and still goes the same it does as when I drove it out the door from new... They are all good cars these days.. imo I wouldn't buy the first new model of any car...

[fridgie]

Double post 5min apart, I'm impressed chicky

[flatcountrymick]

At under 30k for a new Triton drive away there are no alternatives.
What "issues" bother you?

^this by a long way.

[Steane]

110 Defender dual cab might be worth considering

Very rare but very cool. Most Defender utes are DC 130s but I think the order book is now closed on both ute types. Production of wagon/hardtop 110s and 90s finishes in late 2015 with Aus orders closing in early 2015. I'd like to grab a 90 before it's too late.

Can't compete with Triton on value for money as more expensive.

[Crash486]

Saw this online and I thought, WHY?

[UAV]

Not sure how that is even relevant to the thread. But it's a gwagen, very very rarely used as an offroad car. Most bought by people with to much money and very popular in the Middle East where ridiculous modifications like this are common. And hence why the G63 6x6 was made and will sell the most there....

[shortSteve]

On a side note, the only problems I have had are suction control valve and aorbag harness. 52k km's, chipped and exhaust for more go, 15 months old, gone accross aus and back and running 32's with a hesp of mods and still getting mid 10L/100km.
Mate has a dmax, has done a maf plug/ sensor and egr valve in 41k km's.
Most new utes (triton, navara, dmax and hilux) all use the same denso fuel control system components, some even with the same part numbers, so they all will have the same issues. And that is only if you get a car that has the issue, not a high percentage do.

[bountycoconut]

hmm true..

How do the older model Isuzu D-maxes compare to the newer gen?
I know they were sold under holden, but I''m talking about from when the D-max was marketed as its own, which I think was 2008?

[shortSteve]

Exactly the same egr and fuel system, just less airbags, no traction control/ebd/eba etc. So same problems. Oh, and a very small and cramped back seat lol

[bountycoconut]

hehe, so they're pretty much the same in terms of reliability and capability, just a bit less safe?

back seat doesn't worry me too much since i'll usually be the one driving

[naddis01]

PX Ranger!!! No issues with my 2.2L. Well I had a faulty fuel cap when it was new but it was replaced with no fuss and now a rattly gear knob but again that is about to be replaced. Hardly deal breakers.

If you are on a budget, then Triton.

[drover]

PX Ranger!!! No issues with my 2.2L. Well I had a faulty fuel cap when it was new but it was replaced with no fuss and now a rattly gear knob but again that is about to be replaced. Hardly deal breakers.

If you are on a budget, then Triton.

Rattly gear knob! interesting I drove a BT 50 6 sp manual the other week and the little cap on the knob with the gear change diagram rattled like hell all 700 km of the trip

[naddis01]

PX Ranger!!! No issues with my 2.2L. Well I had a faulty fuel cap when it was new but it was replaced with no fuss and now a rattly gear knob but again that is about to be replaced. Hardly deal breakers.

If you are on a budget, then Triton.

Rattly gear knob! interesting I drove a BT 50 6 sp manual the other week and the little cap on the knob with the gear change diagram rattled like hell all 700 km of the trip

If you pop that cap off there is a screw underneath it. It just needs some loctite and a tighten up.

[shortSteve]

Ok, done some reading, and both the bt50 and ranger have build quality issues, gear knob and linkages on manuals (sometimes can't select gears after linfage failure), dash rattles, auto and rear main gaskets leaking and intermittent serious electrical problems/failures (bad earths? Quite common...). However, no fuel related issues...
Dmax (new) and previous gen/rodeo, seems to be similar fuel related issues to Triton, egr, scv, maf, but also bearing failure in hubs and rear axle (previous gen)
Colorado (new) has suspension/strut seizing issues and tardy auto, small build quality issues and bad paint quality, apart from that not much i have read...
Amarok has timing belt failure, leaking timing cover and some head issues, haven't read much negative but a mate who works at a dealer has been keeping my up to date with all his engine overhaul for these, not uncommon it seems.
Hilux has general D4D issues, same fuel type issues as Triton and dmax, add in injectors as a possible weak point (not as common as i thought tho, although the diesal specialist i spoke to said they have atleast 2 hiluxs to every other ute of every brand that comes in, but could be due to numbers of them on the road too?) and iirc the smallest diffs of all the main utes? Weak point maybe?
Navara seems to have got a bad rep early, with similar fuel issues to Triton, but also a weak clutch (dual mass) and build quality issues depending on where it was made.

Hope this puts a lil perspective, seems they all have their problems, it is just dealer/manufacturer customer service that will determine which brand is the better buy...

sS

[rodeddy]

my mate new Colarado, back door won't shut, out of alignment when welded, new door on the way. Bonnet skin flaps around when driving, weird to look at - discovered no joint sealer between frame and skin - too funny, never seen that ... HATES the lag...

Ok, done some reading, and both the bt50 and ranger have build quality issues, gear knob and linkages on manuals (sometimes can't select gears after linfage failure), dash rattles, auto and rear main gaskets leaking and intermittent serious electrical problems/failures (bad earths? Quite common...). However, no fuel related issues...
Dmax (new) and previous gen/rodeo, seems to be similar fuel related issues to Triton, egr, scv, maf, but also bearing failure in hubs and rear axle (previous gen)
Colorado (new) has suspension/strut seizing issues and tardy auto, small build quality issues and bad paint quality, apart from that not much i have read...
Amarok has timing belt failure, leaking timing cover and some head issues, haven't read much negative but a mate who works at a dealer has been keeping my up to date with all his engine overhaul for these, not uncommon it seems.
Hilux has general D4D issues, same fuel type issues as Triton and dmax, add in injectors as a possible weak point (not as common as i thought tho, although the diesal specialist i spoke to said they have atleast 2 hiluxs to every other ute of every brand that comes in, but could be due to numbers of them on the road too?) and iirc the smallest diffs of all the main utes? Weak point maybe?
Navara seems to have got a bad rep early, with similar fuel issues to Triton, but also a weak clutch (dual mass) and build quality issues depending on where it was made.

Hope this puts a lil perspective, seems they all have their problems, it is just dealer/manufacturer customer service that will determine which brand is the better buy...

sS

[GLX58]

Saw this online and I thought, WHY?

That's Mansory for you, they specialise in extremely ott customs for already ott cars. usually, they are totally pointless and pretty ugly. Basically for the rich oil prince who needs to be different to his mates.

Back to the OP, I'd affirm what others have said.

Being a triton forum, all problems will be highlighted. If such a thing as a holden barina forum (ok, i haven't even looked...lol) you'd find heaps of issues there too, but because there isn't there's little ongoing owner info online. The Triton DOES have a few common issues which pop up, but they don't always affect everyone and as said appear to have quick fixes.

If I was looking at dual cabs again now I'd look closer at the D-max and see what deal they could do but as said, at the price point there really is nothing new that compares.

[sydneymark]

When I was looking last year the isuzus started in the high $30's so similar to most of the competition.
Slightly off topic but here at uluru I have just seen a amoroc with britz rental stickers on it so there are some working their way into the world of hard knocks

[bountycoconut]

thanks for the replies guys, and thanks steve for the research!.
Will look at the dmax and tritons.

[rocklicker]

Mate bought an ML in 2007 and have put 333,000 kms on it, first four years as lease ute for work as geologist so all manner of bush work, its such a reliable ute thinking of trading for an MN, most opposition at the moment is way to dear for what they are, all this talk of mazda and ford pfft, top 3 selling utes are still hilux, navara and triton

[RHKTriton]

Go the ml.

They'll be in demand like the older patrols have been, simply because they haven't been over tech'd.

I saw a cut away of the Isuzu diesel and very impressed by the design and build.

[UAV]

Mate bought an ML in 2007 and have put 333,000 kms on it, first four years as lease ute for work as geologist so all manner of bush work, its such a reliable ute thinking of trading for an MN, most opposition at the moment is way to dear for what they are, all this talk of mazda and ford pfft, top 3 selling utes are still hilux, navara and triton

Actually the number one selling ute in the private sector is the ranger. Not the hilux anymore.

[Crash486]

New Nissan http://www.themotorreport.com.au/59482/ ... f-thailand
Another twin turbo rig but with 5 link rear suspension. I reckon that suspension will make it a winner as the humble 4x4 ute mores from workhorse to work/play (dual cab) to daily non work / play .
What so people think ?

[Buzzy]

Nice