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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby Joel on Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:36 pm

Shorsfall what mods are you running on your ute? Mine runs around the 13/14 per 100 but I have bull bar, winch, canopy and tow a trailer every day on 32' tyres. If running a stock ute those figures are unacceptable, but its not reasonable to expect 9L per 100kms on a modified ute.
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby shorsfall on Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:17 pm

Joel wrote:Shorsfall what mods are you running on your ute? Mine runs around the 13/14 per 100 but I have bull bar, winch, canopy and tow a trailer every day on 32' tyres. If running a stock ute those figures are unacceptable, but its not reasonable to expect 9L per 100kms on a modified ute.



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All I have on My Triton is an ARB BullBar and 265/65R17 Tyres. The ute was using this amount well before the tyres got changed. Mitsubishi don't seem to give a rats arse either. They may sell heaps of utes because they are cheap but if they don't look after their customers then whats the point. I buy a new vehicle every 3 years and won't get one next time. I think i will probably get the Amarok.
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby Krossbain on Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:30 am

Mn 2009 125000ks alum bullbar 225's on alloy wheels not a lot of accessories hanging off it, manual, best 7.9 and 8.1 l per 100 at bowser when just poking around sightseeing, always sub 10's highway running... Around 12/100 with camper trailer or 5.6 m boat and 14's with 17'6 poptop van... I find the little 2.5 is capable of great economy if not pushed but loves a drink if you load up...
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby Krossbain on Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:42 am

Was not happy a couple weeks ago, seemed to be getting very close to 10/100, did Maf clean which was black... Got my 7.9 out of next trip just sightseeing and really taking it easy. First thing to try if economy dropping, not sure how they can get so dirty but second time I've been caught with dirty one ... Also run a bit of castrol 2t activ when I remember
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby Longranger1 on Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:47 am

shorsfall wrote:
Joel wrote:Shorsfall what mods are you running on your ute? Mine runs around the 13/14 per 100 but I have bull bar, winch, canopy and tow a trailer every day on 32' tyres. If running a stock ute those figures are unacceptable, but its not reasonable to expect 9L per 100kms on a modified ute.



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All I have on My Triton is an ARB BullBar and 265/65R17 Tyres. The ute was using this amount well before the tyres got changed. Mitsubishi don't seem to give a rats arse either. They may sell heaps of utes because they are cheap but if they don't look after their customers then whats the point. I buy a new vehicle every 3 years and won't get one next time. I think i will probably get the Amarok.


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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby Crash486 on Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:09 am

The average for 3years and 5months is 7.9l/100km from a 2010 MN manual, stock plus canopy and roof bars. So max I could get on 70 litres would be 886 km.
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby shorsfall on Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:55 pm

So I went into United Diesel today and they reckon the Auto will always use 30% more than the manual. Not sure if this is true as mine is using a lot more than 30% and Im sure there are others on here with Autos using the stated 9.6l/100km
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby murwullambah on Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:29 pm

shorsfall wrote:So I went into United Diesel today and they reckon the Auto will always use 30% more than the manual. Not sure if this is true as mine is using a lot more than 30% and Im sure there are others on here with Autos using the stated 9.6l/100km


Im not sure that is true, its just easy to say that at a so called diesel specialist, i have an auto challenger and can achieve under 10 l/100 on a run. How do they explain the Dmax auto using less than the manual
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby NowForThe5th on Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:58 am

Maybe 30 years ago, when autos had huge slippage in the torque converters, but these days with lock-up converters and electronic management the autos should be fairly close to the manuals. Newer gearboxes, like the Aisin in the MQ, are at the point where they are, IMO, as good, if not better than the manual.
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby coughy on Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:05 pm

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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby shorsfall on Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:56 pm

murwullambah wrote:
shorsfall wrote:So I went into United Diesel today and they reckon the Auto will always use 30% more than the manual. Not sure if this is true as mine is using a lot more than 30% and Im sure there are others on here with Autos using the stated 9.6l/100km


Im not sure that is true, its just easy to say that at a so called diesel specialist, i have an auto challenger and can achieve under 10 l/100 on a run. How do they explain the Dmax auto using less than the manual



Yeah thats exactly what I thought. Its funny as a mate of mine had a Auto Challenger I think it would have been about a 2012 and my brother has a Auto 2014 Triton and both use about 13.5-14.5l/100kms just like mine. There has to be something wrong with some of these 2.5 engines otherwise why are some really efficient and some so bad??
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby explorer.dave on Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:40 pm

shorsfall wrote:
murwullambah wrote:
shorsfall wrote:So I went into United Diesel today and they reckon the Auto will always use 30% more than the manual. Not sure if this is true as mine is using a lot more than 30% and Im sure there are others on here with Autos using the stated 9.6l/100km


Im not sure that is true, its just easy to say that at a so called diesel specialist, i have an auto challenger and can achieve under 10 l/100 on a run. How do they explain the Dmax auto using less than the manual



Yeah thats exactly what I thought. Its funny as a mate of mine had a Auto Challenger I think it would have been about a 2012 and my brother has a Auto 2014 Triton and both use about 13.5-14.5l/100kms just like mine. There has to be something wrong with some of these 2.5 engines otherwise why are some really efficient and some so bad??


Too many factors enter the equation, driving style / tyres / accessories etc, not to mention how people actually calculate the mileage, my auto (4spd) averages 11 to 12's. If I saw 10's I would be happy.
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby shorsfall on Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:50 pm

explorer.dave wrote:
Too many factors enter the equation, driving style / tyres / accessories etc, not to mention how people actually calculate the mileage, my auto (4spd) averages 11 to 12's. If I saw 10's I would be happy.



It just gets me how the milage can change so much. My previous work vehicle was a VW Long Wheel Base Transporter Van. It had full racking inside and was loaded to the hilt. It would get 8's all day every day and that was out of a 1.9l engine. My wife has a VF commodore with a 3L V6 in it and it does 8's all day long as well. This Triton of mine has to be the most inefficient car I've owned. about 7 years ago I had an ex Telstra Mazda Bravo with a 2.5L. It had a huge Steel work body on the back and even that got 13's where if my Triton can get 13 I'm laughing.
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby Jacobie on Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:15 am

I get between 8.5 - 11/100km depending on how i drive.
Generally get 650 out of a tank, 600 or so if i have a 4b on the weekend (According to the Trip meter).
I am only running 265/75/16 with steel rims and have a 2" lift if that makes any difference...
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby snakesoup on Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:43 am

that's pretty good for 32's Jacobi, is that 650 untill your light comes on ? or just the range on trip comp?


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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby thebaton on Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:54 am

Does anyone know if any of the after market heavier duty clutches/torque converters for the automatic improve fuel economy?
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby Jacobie on Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:05 am

snakesoup wrote:that's pretty good for 32's Jacobi, is that 650 untill your light comes on ? or just the range on trip comp?



That is on the trip meter when I fill up. So that would be maybe 10 or 20 kms once the fuel light comes on (I don't want to test how much i can get it fully).
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby leonbee on Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:44 pm

shorsfall wrote:So I went into United Diesel today and they reckon the Auto will always use 30% more than the manual. Not sure if this is true as mine is using a lot more than 30% and Im sure there are others on here with Autos using the stated 9.6l/100km


The luxury of the 4 speed Auto will use up to 15% more fuel through the converter.
The Mn Auto is stated at 11.3 Km per hundred Urban. I get 10 - 10.8

In comparison The new Hilux 6spd Auto is rated at 10.4 km per hundred and is 10 grand more...

You can buy allot of fuel with 10 grand :)
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby Defecta on Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:31 pm

Hi all my manual MN MY15 GLX has a 2 inch lift ARB bar winch snorkel rock sliders rear ARB bar canopy 3 inch straight through Red Back exhust ECU remap and runing 33inch 285/75/16 mudies ans happy to say get an average 9.5 to 10 lt per 100 if you try to keep your foot off its 165 Hp and 450 newtons at rear wheels with my 31 inch AT's on
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby destorman on Sun Aug 07, 2016 6:14 pm

Hey crew, doing a bit of documentation for some issues and decided to go through our fuel usage log. To my surprise, the 2015 MN is actually running about the same as the 2010 MN toward the end of her life. Bit of a recap for everyone...

We owned a 2010 MN GLX - bog standard from June 2010. Over it's life it got a nudge bar, side steps and when the factory rubber wore out, some slighter bigger tyres on steel rims. Then, when that rubber ran out, she got some Alloys from an ML and a set of D697's. Interesting the fuel economy records of the 2010 MN show:

From new ... mid 7's ... yes, for real. Measure manually - no fancy 'puter in the pov-oh pack GLX. That stayed pretty consistent until a set of Maxxis 225/75r16 were fitted when she had 48,820kms. Fuel use jumped up to the mid 8's.

There was spike in use due to service issue (fuel line crimped when tappets were done at 60,000kms) and thanks to some stuffing around by Eagers, we had that for a few months and used around high nines until the issue was found by another dealer. Fuel economy dropped back to mid 8's then ...

After the 90,000km service, the fuel economy dropped to low 8's and stayed there until a set od D697's were fitted at around 109,000km. Fuel use jumped up to mid 8's again.

Then at 119,000 kms she sent in for the 'radiator overheating recall' issue and fuel usage jumped up to 9 per hundred.

Among all that were a few interesting trips, like the one when we went to pick up the ML Alloys and got 6.95 per hundred on a direct highway run. Also, a few trips loaded with camping gear and towing our tinne, which all seem to have fuel use at around mid 10's.

Now, the 2015 MN we got in May 2015...

From day one, it was at 9 ... like 9.08 through to 9.11. For the first 3000km it's run at an average of 8.98.

After the 1500km free service and as the 'running rough' and surge issues came to light, the fuel use jumped up to mid to high 9's. After the 'fuel pump relearn' was sorted the fuel use dropped back to the 9 level, high 8's. Such that over 6000 kms between 15,000 and 21,000kms, the average if 9.07. The last 5000km between 25,000 and 30,000 (before the latest service warranty and back and forth data collection) it's used an average of 9.12 per hundred.

Again, the 2015 MN has some unique trips in there too - the camping ones, with camper box and boat showing around mid 10's, and an odd highway only run which show mid 8's - no awesome high 7's for the 2015.

So, in short, what I've concluded:

The 2015 MN isn't going as bad as I thought. This is because my memory of the consistent low 8's was back in the life of the 2010 MN before the radiator recall and wider tyres and allow rims. So, from our use, the Alloys and wider tyres have added around 1 litre per hundred of extra fuel use. The radiator issue, has added another 0.5L / hundred.

The 2015 MN has pretty much picked up where the 2010 MN left off - the 2015 MN has the same D697 rubber from new, and came with alloys and the radiator 'patch'.
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby triton guy on Sun Aug 07, 2016 6:52 pm

I think lots of people read way to much into fuel consumption and it seams like a huge deal in the 4wd world, honestly do the sums on 8l per hundred or 9.5l per hundred over a 100,000 klm journey it's bugger all.
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby destorman on Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:10 am

Mate, it's an issue because most of us live on a budget. We have family commitments and make decisions based on the fuel consumption sticker on the new vehicle. When the actual comes nowhere near close, it's costing us more than we budgeted. Remember, we're talking onroad use not offroad.

Over 100,000km, which is about 3yrs average use, 1 L extra per hundred km means it uses 1000 more litres of fuel, at an average price of say $1.50 per litre, that's $1500 out of our pockets, unplanned, unbudgeted. I'm glad you can afford that, most of us can't.
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby Samwich on Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:54 am

I have a standard MN 2011 Manual, 76,XXXkms
I get around 500-550 around town before the light shows up... I was hoping more then that :/

Lucky to get 650 on the highway (Although, I do sit on 120kms ish)
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby red dragin on Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:01 am

I get around 11.2 - 11.4 km/litre (8.9-8.7 L/100) out of around the suburbs, with some short highway driving. Once a month it does about 100km of 5th gear driving (every 3rd tank)

2015 manual, driven a bit boy racer most of the time (boost is fun), no extras or weight.

Will be watching for any changes now it has an EGR eliminator fitted.
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Re: What economy are people getting from their MN's

Postby triton guy on Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:25 pm

Your right destorman it is a lot of money to a lot of people, but at just under $10 per week the numbers are hard to compare, weather, road surface, road incline, accessories and driving style play a much bigger role than the consumption numbers give credit to.
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