Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Re: Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Postby Redneck198033 on Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:54 pm

BILLC wrote:Hi Guys,

Found this fan at Sterling parts at Smithfield (Sydney) for $128 but im having issues finding a relay.
Can you use a different relay for this ? can anyone provide a part no.

http://www.sterlingparts.com.au/NGMBTT-FNA-08F



Does this fan come with the large bottom rubbers or do we just order the genuine ones from the stealers??
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Re: Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Postby explorer.dave on Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:24 pm

Redneck198033 wrote:
BILLC wrote:Hi Guys,

Found this fan at Sterling parts at Smithfield (Sydney) for $128 but im having issues finding a relay.
Can you use a different relay for this ? can anyone provide a part no.

http://www.sterlingparts.com.au/NGMBTT-FNA-08F



Does this fan come with the large bottom rubbers or do we just order the genuine ones from the stealers??


Mine didn't, and I believe others haven't as well, just go to Bunnings and grab a couple from there, not expensive.
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Re: Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Postby carrrake on Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:11 pm

Redneck198033 wrote:
BILLC wrote:Hi Guys,

Found this fan at Sterling parts at Smithfield (Sydney) for $128 but im having issues finding a relay.
Can you use a different relay for this ? can anyone provide a part no.

http://www.sterlingparts.com.au/NGMBTT-FNA-08F



Does this fan come with the large bottom rubbers or do we just order the genuine ones from the stealers??


Yep they did for me. ordered mine only a month ago. Just need to get the m6 bolts and a mini relay
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Re: Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Postby carrrake on Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:12 pm

Also came with rubber grommets at the top
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Re: Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Postby Mrjimmy on Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:29 pm

I have a 2011 MN Triton 2.5 diesel. The plug is on the passenger side headlight panel. 4 clips on top of grile and slide grille foward gives you access to it. There is 2 plugs, 1 up high with yelow wires and 1 down lower with heavier guage black and blue wires, this is the plug for thermo fan. A relay needs to be fitted in engine bay fuse box in position marked fan on underside of the lid. I stole the horn relay to test it. It works obviously as air con cycles in and out coming on and off. Hope this helps.
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Re: Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Postby Rhamer on Sat May 05, 2018 3:02 pm

I’m currently investigating adding the same thermo fan as the previous model to my MQ.

I’ve studied the wiring diagrams for both the MQ and the Pajero Sport (which has the fan) to see what might be already available in the factor6 loom.

After pulling the whole engine fuse/relay box apart and tracing wiring, I can now say with confidence that the answer is nothing.
In fact there is not even a wire on the appropriate pin on the ECU.

So any thermo fan addition on an MQ will need to be completely wired and a seperate relay added.
Of course the good news is the fan mounting points are there, so that is at least an easy part.

I think I would like to wire mine so it can be switched to either run with the A/C compressor, but also manually switched on as well. I don’t know much about A/C but I would think there would be times when this could be handy?

Anyway, I just thought I would post this in case anybody else was thinking about searching for factory thermo fan wiring on an MQ.

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Re: Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Postby Rhamer on Sat May 19, 2018 7:49 pm

I got my fan installed ok.
As expected the same unit as the MN fits the MQ.
My fan did not come with rubber mounts, but it is important to source and fit them as it cuts down on the noise significantly.

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I traced the wiring and found an easy place to pick up the A/C compressor wire inside the fuse box.
It’s the white wire.
This is the switched high current wire so the fan and compressor run together.

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I also ran the fan feed via a relay that is controlled by a switch in the cabin, so I can disable the fan when not needed in the winter.

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Re: Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Postby Quintin79 on Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:43 am

Rhamer wrote:
I traced the wiring and found an easy place to pick up the A/C compressor wire inside the fuse box.
It’s the white wire.
This is the switched high current wire so the fan and compressor run together.



so do we you use the white wire as the trigger for the relay, and run a separate power source via the relay to the fan?

or do we run the fan directly off the white wire?
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Re: Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Postby jnik on Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:37 pm

I'm about to order a fan for my 2013 MN.

I wanted to check if I had the connector (looks like I do), but I had trouble removing the grill.

I removed the four black fasteners across the top, but then ran into trouble.

Others have said that there are three clips down each side ... to pull the grill forward to remove it.

But on mine, there's another of the same black fasteners on each side.

It looked like I needed to remove the headlights to get to them, but it turns out you have to remove the grill to remove the headlights ... so I guess that's not the way forward.

Any tips on how to remove these guys?
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Re: Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Postby NowForThe5th on Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:49 pm

From the online manual, which is a really handy place to get information like how to remove stuff.

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Re: Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Postby RHKTriton on Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:06 pm

I just used the compressor wire as a trigger to switch a generic relay for the ac fan - works great. KISS! :lol:

I thought about setting up an over ride switch to bring it in manually to supplement the electric radiator fan, however, if its that hot, the ac is on anyway and the electric rad fan along with the 28mm core radiator are coping well with the 40+ days.
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Re: Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Postby MN Driver on Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:11 pm

Thanks sooooo much for this thread. Definitely going to be doing this mod. The link to aliexpress has expired.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Sh ... st=ae803_3

is this the same fan.
Also is Garrett Tang still giving discounts and how do I get his contact details.


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Re: Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Postby thebaton on Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:14 pm

bjm74 wrote:Howdy all,

Have been reading through this thread as I've been told by the minister of finance that my aircon in my 2012 MN GLXR is Sugar High Iced Tea! I'm keen as mustard to implement this mod and do have the necessary cable as mentioned, but also have what I believe is the auto transmission cooler in the spot where the fan seems to have to go (attached pics). Has anyone else who's done this mod have this also? Just don't see how the fan can fit in this space with this already there. Any ideas??


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did you ever fit the fan? that transcooler might be able to be moved behind?
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I have one of these intercoolers ^^ will the thermofan fit?
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Re: Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Postby Rhamer on Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:31 pm

Quintin79 wrote:
Rhamer wrote:
I traced the wiring and found an easy place to pick up the A/C compressor wire inside the fuse box.
It’s the white wire.
This is the switched high current wire so the fan and compressor run together.



so do we you use the white wire as the trigger for the relay, and run a separate power source via the relay to the fan?

or do we run the fan directly off the white wire?


From memory the white wire is the clutch wire on the A/C compressor.
I would think this could also drive the fan directly, which is what I did.

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Re: Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Postby thebaton on Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:32 pm

If i cut some of the metal under the plastic of the bumper to push my bigger intercooler out of the way to fit this thermo fan what is the downside?! if that stuff can even be cut?
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Re: Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Postby RHKTriton on Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:06 am

I don't think you can cut any metal work at the front end as it is all part of the crumple zoning.

I'd be looking at changing the tranny cooler ( location/design).
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Re: Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Postby thebaton on Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:28 am

i dont have the tranny cooler, thats from someones elses post, my issue is the larger intercooler. Air con was like a hair dryer yesterday :evil:
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Re: Airconditioning Thermo Fan connector

Postby sv294 on Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:26 pm

Hi guys can someone confirm the operation of the condensor fan it looks to be triggered by the ecu so doesn't come on all the time with compressor is it also temperature controlled i used the aftermarket fan for the pb challenger put a narva relay in the fuse box but it operates very unusual im at a loss guys
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