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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby fridgie on Tue May 07, 2013 6:29 pm

Naff wrote:Sounds like a recipe for tears as things weaken after time.

Rubbing, vibrations, heat..... :?
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby Cowboy Dave on Tue May 07, 2013 6:36 pm

fridgie wrote:
Naff wrote:Sounds like a recipe for tears as things weaken after time.

Rubbing, vibrations, heat..... :?


Just another night out eh Fridgie? :lol:
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby Mongrel on Tue May 07, 2013 6:44 pm

Seriously - its fine!

My truck is gone in 2 years. It will last that long and then some.
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby borngeek on Tue May 07, 2013 7:21 pm

Nah seriously it is fine, really it is! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

zip tie eventually rubs through brake line... and weeeeeeee > BANG :roll: but you know best ;) have fun.
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby Mongrel on Tue May 07, 2013 7:26 pm

Yep. The plastic zip ties they make these days is quality stuff!! I will change it for some woollen thread.

Relax mate! There is nothing "hanging" from the brake lines. There is no pressure on the brake lines. There is no stress on the brake lines. There is no weight being supported on the brake lines.

Can I make it any clearer that there is no compromise to the brake lines?
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby Cowboy Dave on Tue May 07, 2013 7:31 pm

It's all good mate, your truck your choices. We're not so worried about that as we are the next guy who might come along and adopt the same approach without seeing a contrary view.
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby Mongrel on Tue May 07, 2013 7:43 pm

Yeah true!

I am not silly enough to compromise the safety of my ute. Once I fit the snorkel I will look at better options. :)

But for now, it will do.
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby cnswilly on Thu May 09, 2013 10:14 am

ITs not pretty but it seems to work

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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby Mongrel on Thu May 09, 2013 10:17 am

Does the Job. :)
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby cnswilly on Thu May 09, 2013 10:47 am

IT does. all made from stuff i had sitting at home.
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby colins7014 on Thu May 09, 2013 9:00 pm

Hey cnswilly do you still have easy access to the air cleaner when needed?
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby melba on Fri May 10, 2013 6:51 am

Here's a couple of photos the dealer sent me last week from the 60k service, the provent had been installed for around 30k since the manifold was replaced.
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby cnswilly on Fri May 10, 2013 8:11 am

Yeah Colins,

I still have access to the airfilter. Funny thing is i just changed mine without undoing. The aluminium has enough flex to allow it to move.
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby Froggy on Fri May 10, 2013 9:58 am

I feel a lot happier about my catch can install after seeing these two!
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby borngeek on Fri May 10, 2013 10:10 am

Froggy wrote:I feel a lot happier about my catch can install after seeing these two!


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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby cnswilly on Sat May 11, 2013 1:14 pm

Sorry if it isn't up to your standard.
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby smiffy on Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:15 pm

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Fitted my provent today. Used ideas on placement from this thread.
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby sv294 on Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:11 pm

Checked provent yesterday this is the second time I have emptied it in 15k and each time I have gotten about 50ml each time, the element is now looking soaked but they say there good for 50k plus I will invest in another one very shortly. Its pleasing to know that the oil isn't in my manifold or intercooler, I also checked the maff sensor and it's bone dry also. Happy days :D
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby BryVGT on Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:02 pm

Hi guys,

Sharing with you my Provent Install...

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Should I add a heat shield to my hoses? They are Fuel Hoses btw
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby Kingbrown on Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:12 pm

Heat shield to protect it near the turbo could be a wise move (wrap it in that flexible foil stuff perhaps ?)

I'm wondering how much flex is needed in the connecting hoses - to allow for rocking of the engine (and reaction from its massive torque :lol: ) Snaking the hoses would allow for some movement.
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby rodeddy on Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:44 am

hi guys.
I thought i would share my oil catch can mod with everyone. This is my 1st attempt at a posting with pic's so hopefully will turn out ok...
I know lots of you chose the Provent 200 but i was looking for something more compact. So i chose the following model from ebay....
..... it is basically the same design as the Provent, has over pressure valve BUT it is a smaller version and it’s only $99 delivered. Also, the hoses fit much better as the catch can inlet/outlet are only 19mm.
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I was not too keen to have to replace the filter element with a new one each time it was ‘full’ , not to mention not being able to tell whether it was 'full' or not. So I decided to modify the unit to suit my needs.
What i also wanted to achieve was for incoming gasses to be directed downwards to the bottom of the catch can and then rise up out through to the top.
As you can see in the pic, re the internal filter element, it is covered in filter material. I removed the actual filter material and gauze from around its housing, so it simply left me with the bare plastic frame.
Require a sharp knife and some patience to cut the gauze and filter material from the plastic frame.
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I then cut a thin sheet of aluminium which i pre rolled and then wrapped around the plastic frame leaving about 1cm open at the bottom for the gasses to enter the centre section and head up. Once the aluminium was in place, i used cable ties to keep it together and in place.
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I then fitted the stainless scourer into the middle section.
I then refitted this into the catch can body.
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Then finally i cut a piece of aluminium flyscreen and fitted to the top as the final filtering agent and as safety measure should any of the scourer bits come loose they can’t leave the catch can and end up in the turbo...
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Now as the gasses come into the chamber, they will forced down to the bottom of the chamber and then through the 1cm gap and then the gasses will be forced up through the stainless scourer, through the aluminium flyscreen and out.
I have fitted a clear hose on the bottom drain with the drain valve further down the hose. As this hose is clear, i can see when the drain hose starts to fill with oil and can drain before it starts to fill the actual catch can.
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I fitted the entire unit adj the air filter box as others have done. I prefer this area as it gets some radiant heat from the turbo AFTER shutting the engine off. This radiant heat, with no flow though the catch can, will aid the oil caught in the scourer to keep warm and drop out the bottom.
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby Cowboy Dave on Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:30 pm

Fixed your images for you there mate - you need to use the [ img ] codes around the url to make them work - if you preview the post, select the url and press the IMG button it will put the codes around them for you.

Re the mods you've done, if you try and blow through the inlet pipe how much back pressure do you feel? Hard to tell from the images but the scourer looked densely packed to me and you want to avoid too much restriction - otherwise your engine will find another way out for the pressure. If it still breathes all right then all is good.
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby rodeddy on Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:58 pm

thanks mate ..... appreciate the fix.
I want to add a couple of pics of the finished job, so will try and get the pics working...
The scourer is not packed that tight, but thanks. I can very easily blow through the catch can BUT it has an overpressure safety valve which i checked also by blowing into it whilst blocking the outlet - and the safety valve opened.
So all is good. cheers and thanks again. :D
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby sam on Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:03 am

smiffy wrote:Click to view larger picture
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Fitted my provent today. Used ideas on placement from this thread.


Hey smiffy did you leave the original mounting bracket on the provent and attach the bracket to that
or have you used a hose clamp or similar around the provent to attach to the bracket you made . :?

Hope that sorta makes sense .
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Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby JeffH on Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:22 am

Evening Gents,

Just got a question in regards to the quoted posts below from Magoo and odie602r.
I was off tomorrow to get the hoses etc to fit the provent until I found these comments regarding build up in the manifold. Am I right then in understanding that because of this inherent problem of sludge buildup that whilst the car is still under warranty MMA will clean the manifolds. Or does there have to be some sort of secondary problem that is attributed to the buildup. There are no issues with installing the can with a ?choked manifold is there? bit like installing a pacemaker for a heart when there's still blockages in the arteries, it'll work, but having clean pipes is always going to be more efficient yeh?.

Its a 2nd hand truck with 83000 on the clock, and I think I'll get this first service done by my local dealership so as to make sure the software update is done and any warranty related stuff is looked at before the warranty runs out at the end of 2014' I've also got a blanking plate here waiting to be fitted, it'll then be serviced by myself and my regular mechanic.

anyway some clarification on what I'm entitled to expect from MMA in this particular instance would be greatly appreciated.

Magoo wrote:Thanx mate I will do the can and what's your view on doing manifold as a home job ?? I have removed the egr and top manifold and cleaned them a while back and they were terrible with build up but an easy removal and fit up , wasn't sure about bottom manifold if it was a bit hard or not



odie602r wrote:are you still in warranty? If so, get it done under that (can't remember when the kms pass what's covered by warranty)


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