Oil Catch Can working

Engines, Gearboxes, Transfers, Tailshafts, Diffs, axles and CVs

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby Snooozy on Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:17 pm

cleaned out my catch can, seems to be working quite well

Catch Can Clean 01.JPG


there is a small amount of water on the bottom, this is normal for my vehicle as it only does short trips most days & does not get to full running temp.
I know I should walk or ride the bike, but I'm lazy :roll: :lol:
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
User avatar
Snooozy
Platinum Subscriber
 
Posts: 3860
Joined: Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:27 am
Location: Victoria


 

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby Tim007 on Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:01 pm

Is any one running at pro-vent and a Ultra Gauge. I am interested if anyone has experienced higher intake temps since running the catch can. I am getting intake spikes of over 102 degrees. Also running ECUTEK boosting to 27spsi, 3" dump and exhaust, K&N filter.
Keen to get amongst it!!
User avatar
Tim007
 
Posts: 471
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:51 pm
Location: Sunshine Coast QLD

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby 2013triton on Fri May 23, 2014 4:16 am

Any one mounted there catch can down near the intercooler. Just though longer hose running down hill & a long run back up hill to the turbo. by that time the air should be as free from oil . any thoughts on this set up
2013triton
 
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:45 am

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby variflex on Fri May 23, 2014 8:46 am

Tim007 wrote:Is any one running at pro-vent and a Ultra Gauge. I am interested if anyone has experienced higher intake temps since running the catch can. I am getting intake spikes of over 102 degrees. Also running ECUTEK boosting to 27spsi, 3" dump and exhaust, K&N filter.


Wow, spikes of 102 degree’s is massive, I’d certainly be looking into that,

I have the ML and run a chip it chip with manual boost controller running 30 PSI with a standard exhaust, No catch can but have the EGR Blank and highest I have seen on the scangauge Air intake temp is 72 degrees, This was towing close to a tonne of camper trailer up a long hill giving it full right foot,

I have since fitted a thermo fan to my intercooler as I noticed the bulbar blocking airflow over the cooler, This fan has drastically reduced air intake temps and also made a slight difference to water temps
I have posted a thread up about the install, this may be worth a read for you
User avatar
variflex
 
Posts: 1375
Joined: Tue May 12, 2009 9:48 pm
Location: Penrith

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby Cowboy Dave on Fri May 23, 2014 12:36 pm

2013triton wrote:Any one mounted there catch can down near the intercooler. Just though longer hose running down hill & a long run back up hill to the turbo. by that time the air should be as free from oil . any thoughts on this set up


There was one bloke who stuck his in behind the grille closer to the top than where the intercooler is. There are some photos of it somewhere. Not sure about anyone putting them down any lower though.
The Hitchhiker's guide to the the Triton universe and NTN.

A how to on finding your own way - search me.

The two threads I wish people would use more: thing 1 and thing 2.
User avatar
Cowboy Dave
Moderator
 
Posts: 18098
Joined: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:46 am
Location: Sydney

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby big_bob_thefirst on Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:40 am

Hi guys, I've noticed that my provent hosing is leaking a little oil. It's coming from where one of the reducers in the piping is.

Is there any type of sealant that can be used in that type of application to stop any leakages.

Also wondering if a less then airtight catch can system could be bad for the system as a whole.
I feel sorry for people who don't drink...
When they wake up in the morning, that's the best they're going to feel all day.
User avatar
big_bob_thefirst
Platinum Subscriber
 
Posts: 995
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:18 pm
Location: Adelaide, South Australia

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby canciano on Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:59 pm

Just finish 30000 km service on my 2012 mn Triton adjust valve clearance they should be done at 30000 km as they were all over the place with the clearance;' inlet manifold took 5 cans of degrease to clean made and fit oil catch can [120mm x 80 ] stainless pipe with black 6mm plastic top and bottom 15 mm brass elbow fittings ; Made and blank egr exhaust pipe drill 6 mm hole on the blank plate ; fit new chipit triton now goes rally well
canciano
 
Posts: 5
Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:10 pm

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby AnOldFart on Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:30 pm

big_bob_thefirst wrote:Hi guys, I've noticed that my provent hosing is leaking a little oil. It's coming from where one of the reducers in the piping is.
Is there any type of sealant that can be used in that type of application to stop any leakages.
Also wondering if a less then airtight catch can system could be bad for the system as a whole.


Answers are Yes and Yes... ;)
Apply a 'smear' of any sort of silicone sealant ie, the stuff used for waterproofing in bathrooms to the 'reducer' joint. Ideally you should do this 'first' ie, when you are first setting up your ProVent system, when all of your plumbing is nice and clean and oil free, for the best results. Now, you -might- have to pull the joint apart and clean it of any traces of oil with something like alcohol or acetone in order for the silastic to 'stick'.... ;)
A less than air-tight catch-can plumbing system means you risk your engine sucking in un-filtered dirt and dust... :o Not a happy prescription for a long engine life.... :|
Quote: "Only two things are infinite: the Universe and human stupidity; and I really am not certain about the Universe !" - Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
User avatar
AnOldFart
Platinum Subscriber
 
Posts: 540
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:15 pm
Location: Brisbane

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby big_bob_thefirst on Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:26 pm

Thanks AOF. I was thinking alright had to strip it and try cleaning it before sealing it.

So any silicone sealer will be ok with oil / heat? Cool.
I feel sorry for people who don't drink...
When they wake up in the morning, that's the best they're going to feel all day.
User avatar
big_bob_thefirst
Platinum Subscriber
 
Posts: 995
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:18 pm
Location: Adelaide, South Australia

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby AnOldFart on Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:37 pm

big_bob_thefirst wrote:Thanks AOF. I was thinking alright had to strip it and try cleaning it before sealing it.
So any silicone sealer will be ok with oil / heat? Cool.


I just used a tube of general purpose silicone that I had left lying around from another job and haven't had any problems with it.
If you wanted to get fully pedantic about it you could go to SoupyCheep and buy a specialist tube of automotive silicone specifically designed for use with oil rich environments like sealing sump pan gaskets but I think you'd be better off spending that money on a six-pack of your favourite beer.... ;) :D :lol:
Quote: "Only two things are infinite: the Universe and human stupidity; and I really am not certain about the Universe !" - Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
User avatar
AnOldFart
Platinum Subscriber
 
Posts: 540
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:15 pm
Location: Brisbane

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby big_bob_thefirst on Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:46 pm

Haha, I could use a six pack alright...
I feel sorry for people who don't drink...
When they wake up in the morning, that's the best they're going to feel all day.
User avatar
big_bob_thefirst
Platinum Subscriber
 
Posts: 995
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:18 pm
Location: Adelaide, South Australia

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby jrs184 on Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:06 pm

Cowboy Dave wrote:16mm should go on easy enough. The plastic bit near the airbox comes out which makes it a bit easier to push into the hose. Although if you can't push it onto the one at the motor that sounds a bit wrong. For the provent you need some adaptors - 25mm I think those barbs are?

Hi, I just fitted my provent: the barbs on it are 25mm, the hose from the rocker cover is 19mm ID , and the receiver barb near the airbox is 22mm ID, difficult finding 22mm hose or reducers, I used some poly pipe that was 22mm ID in a short length then a 25mm ID to cover over that. I found copper reducers 25 to 19mm, put a short length of 19mm copper pipe inside that with locktite to hold it, that fits perfectly in the 19mm ID oil resistant hose I found. Many SS hose clamps later all done. Made a bracket to the firewall then to the fuel filter housing to pick up the slanted 6mm captive nut with a piece of aluminium angle to make it hang vertical, Done about 1000km with it and no sign of oil in the can yet just clear watery liquid. (When I took the factory rubber rocker vent to inlet hose off and checked inside there was just a faint smear of oil inside, that really surprised me as I thought it would be chockers with oil.) .jrs184 ML triton
jrs184
 
Posts: 243
Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:58 pm

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby Cowboy Dave on Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:42 pm

You've left me a bit confused there I have to say. You say the hose from air intake to rocker cover is 19mm ID. So shouldn't the barb on the block and the barb on the intake both be 19mm or thereabouts OD on that logic? In which case why would the 'receiver barb near the airbox' be 22mm ID and why would you need ID when talking about a barb - again should it be OD?

Not having a go or anything but I am having trouble making sense out of all of that so unless I'm being particularly dim (entirely possible this time of night I confess) others may also be similarly confused.
The Hitchhiker's guide to the the Triton universe and NTN.

A how to on finding your own way - search me.

The two threads I wish people would use more: thing 1 and thing 2.
User avatar
Cowboy Dave
Moderator
 
Posts: 18098
Joined: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:46 am
Location: Sydney

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby AnOldFart on Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:05 am

Cowboy Dave wrote:You've left me a bit confused there I have to say. You say the hose from air intake to rocker cover is 19mm ID. So shouldn't the barb on the block and the barb on the intake both be 19mm or thereabouts OD on that logic? In which case why would the 'receiver barb near the airbox' be 22mm ID and why would you need ID when talking about a barb - again should it be OD?

Not having a go or anything but I am having trouble making sense out of all of that so unless I'm being particularly dim (entirely possible this time of night I confess) others may also be similarly confused.

Your right CD, you're not the only one here, that's confused.... ;) The rocker box outlet nipple on my 2010 MN is 16mm OD and likewise, the PCV plastic inlet nipple, on the turbo's inlet rubber air hose is also 16mm OD.....! I used 16mm ID SAE-J189 oilproof hose which has an OD of 22mm to plumb in my own CatchCan, as per my other Post, halfway down page 8 here.... viewtopic.php?f=38&t=7472&start=175
Quote: "Only two things are infinite: the Universe and human stupidity; and I really am not certain about the Universe !" - Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
User avatar
AnOldFart
Platinum Subscriber
 
Posts: 540
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:15 pm
Location: Brisbane

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby dunney on Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:47 pm

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Oil-Catch-Ca ... 43cd2cd337

is this a fake provent or what? I suspect so.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Small-Pro-oi ... 4624eeb890

I see another member is using this one, have anyone else used this version?
User avatar
dunney
 
Posts: 76
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:22 pm
Location: port hedland, western australia

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby Clarkalot on Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:59 am

Just wondering guys, if i was to buy this item.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PROVENT-200- ... 339&_uhb=1
Would it everything (bar the drain kit and mounting bracket) that is need to fit it? I wouldn't need any more joiners or reducers at all would I? Thanks for any info.
User avatar
Clarkalot
 
Posts: 30
Joined: Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:24 pm
Location: Atherton, Far North Queensland

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby Cowboy Dave on Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:09 am

Looks like it has hoses and joiners covered.
The Hitchhiker's guide to the the Triton universe and NTN.

A how to on finding your own way - search me.

The two threads I wish people would use more: thing 1 and thing 2.
User avatar
Cowboy Dave
Moderator
 
Posts: 18098
Joined: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:46 am
Location: Sydney

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby Clarkalot on Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:33 pm

Cheers CD. :)
User avatar
Clarkalot
 
Posts: 30
Joined: Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:24 pm
Location: Atherton, Far North Queensland

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby jrs184 on Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:14 am

My Provent is working a treat, I used long hoses, from the mount near the fuel filter away from the turbo side with wide slow curves to give as much cool down/condensing time as possible, and have found a great way to save on expensive replacement filters. On week nites or other times when not driving, I tried this first just over nite then for 2 days and the results are amazing. I took metre of kitchen towel, doubled it length ways, rolled it around the filter, it fits around the filter exactly, held it in place with 5 rubber bands, to give it a bit of squeeze over time, and taking it out the towel is completely soaked with black oil and condensate leaving the filter looking white and like new again. I don't recommend leaving the towel in there as you need as low as possible pressure in the can and the paper altho' absorbent is not as permeable as the filter. This way I am cleaning the system as regularly as I check my other fluids etc.
jrs184
 
Posts: 243
Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:58 pm

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby jrs184 on Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:37 am

Cowboy Dave wrote:You've left me a bit confused there I have to say. You say the hose from air intake to rocker cover is 19mm ID. So shouldn't the barb on the block and the barb on the intake both be 19mm or thereabouts OD on that logic? In which case why would the 'receiver barb near the airbox' be 22mm ID and why would you need ID when talking about a barb - again should it be OD?

Not having a go or anything but I am having trouble making sense out of all of that so unless I'm being particularly dim (entirely possible this time of night I confess) others may also be similarly confused.


Sorry guys I thought I mentioned my rig is an 2006 ML and they are the sizes you have to deal with, 25mmOD both barbs on the provent, reduce to 19mmID hose direct fit to rocker barb at 19mmOD, however the barb on the airbox/intercooler pipe is 22mmOD which takes some double hosing to get it to reduce to fit the 19mmID hose.
jrs184
 
Posts: 243
Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:58 pm

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby jrs184 on Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:41 am

jrs184 wrote:
Cowboy Dave wrote:You've left me a bit confused there I have to say. You say the hose from air intake to rocker cover is 19mm ID. So shouldn't the barb on the block and the barb on the intake both be 19mm or thereabouts OD on that logic? In which case why would the 'receiver barb near the airbox' be 22mm ID and why would you need ID when talking about a barb - again should it be OD?

Not having a go or anything but I am having trouble making sense out of all of that so unless I'm being particularly dim (entirely possible this time of night I confess) others may also be similarly confused.


Sorry guys I thought I mentioned my rig is an 2006 ML and they are the sizes you have to deal with, 25mmOD both barbs on the provent, reduce to 19mmID hose direct fit to rocker barb at 19mmOD, however the barb on the airbox/intercooler pipe is 22mmOD which takes some double hosing to get it to reduce to fit the 19mmID hose.

(Yes boo boo there on one dimension should have read OD )
jrs184
 
Posts: 243
Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:58 pm

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby jrs184 on Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:52 am

jrs184 wrote:My Provent is working a treat, I used long hoses, from the mount near the fuel filter away from the turbo side with wide slow curves to give as much cool down/condensing time as possible, and have found a great way to save on expensive replacement filters. On week nites or other times when not driving, I tried this first just over nite then for 2 days and the results are amazing. I took metre of kitchen towel, doubled it length ways, rolled it around the filter, it fits around the filter exactly, held it in place with 5 rubber bands, to give it a bit of squeeze over time, and taking it out the towel is completely soaked with black oil and condensate leaving the filter looking white and like new again. I don't recommend leaving the towel in there as you need as low as possible pressure in the can and the paper altho' absorbent is not as permeable as the filter. This way I am cleaning the system as regularly as I check my other fluids etc.
(No wonder the manifolds coke up and the intercooler must be full of condensate as well)
jrs184
 
Posts: 243
Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:58 pm

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby dieselweasel on Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:35 pm

Hi all,

This is a great thread and I'm getting excited about making a catch can for the triton, I'm 90% savvy with everything except what size hose to use and where I would get it from in western oz,
What does od mean with hoses? Outer diameter?
That wouldn't guarantee what the internal would be

Cheers

08 ml 2wd 4d56 engine
Proud owner of 'Wheelbarrow'
User avatar
dieselweasel
 
Posts: 1120
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:25 pm
Location: Bunbury WA

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby dieselweasel on Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:45 pm

Hi all,

This is a great thread and I'm getting excited about making a catch can for the triton, I'm 90% savvy with everything except what size hose to use and where I would get it from in western oz,
What does od mean with hoses? Outer diameter?
That wouldn't guarantee what the internal would be

Cheers

08 ml 2wd 4d56 engine
Proud owner of 'Wheelbarrow'
User avatar
dieselweasel
 
Posts: 1120
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:25 pm
Location: Bunbury WA

Re: Oil Catch Can working

Postby Cowboy Dave on Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:53 pm

Yeah there's outside diameter and ID for inside diameter. OD could refer to hose barbs or fittings which would match the ID of the hose.

From memory the hose is 16mm ID which might be 5/8 in imperial (before my time). Have a search around though for something more definite than my flaky memory.

Somewhere like pirtek or even Clark rubber would have it. Just make sure it is oil and heat resistant hose.

Easiest way is to order the whole lot from western filters in Sydney. They do a kit with the Provent 200 and all the fittings you need and a little bracket to mount it behind the airbox with.
The Hitchhiker's guide to the the Triton universe and NTN.

A how to on finding your own way - search me.

The two threads I wish people would use more: thing 1 and thing 2.
User avatar
Cowboy Dave
Moderator
 
Posts: 18098
Joined: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:46 am
Location: Sydney

PreviousNext

Return to Drive Train Components

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests