The Automatic Transmission - talk shit thread

[hvac guy]

on mine i have to drive it to get it too lock up. (light on the throttle) if i press too much it just slips
way too easy. drives me crazy cause its just wasting fuel not using the torque of the motor

[snowman]

on mine i have to drive it to get it too lock up. (light on the throttle) if i press too much it just slips
way too easy. drives me crazy cause its just wasting fuel not using the torque of the motor

i am wondering if it is a more recent MY13 development. it was quite obvious on the test drive and would almost undoubtedly be a software adjustment.

[rodeddy]

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... it may well be ..

on mine i have to drive it to get it too lock up. (light on the throttle) if i press too much it just slips
way too easy. drives me crazy cause its just wasting fuel not using the torque of the motor

i am wondering if it is a more recent MY13 development. it was quite obvious on the test drive and would almost undoubtedly be a software adjustment.

[hvac guy]

mmm i have had the latest ecu flash, it might be in the canbus/tranny computer

[rodeddy]

... stabbing in the dark here ....i noticed a grease nipple on the tailshaft rear uni. It looks very dry and never greased.. is this worth a try and do i simply use a moly disulphide grease??

cheers, Rod

[brodical]

Yeah I usually give mine a couple of pumps before a big trip ..jst bearing grease....and any other nipple I can find...

[rodeddy]

Ok,
after speakng to a few mechanics they are under the impression i have a torque convertor issue.

I think next stop is the dealer ............... oh joy

[TUF909]

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[iamsimon]

All of a sudden my speedo has stopped working and the car is really struggling to get moving out of first. Feck.
Has this happened to anyone else?

[Cowboy Dave]

When you say stopped working, do you mean the needle isn't moving at all? Is the odometer still ticking over? Does it go alright once it gets out of first or what? I think you need to give us more details to get any sort of helpful answers back.

[iamsimon]

All Fixed! A fuse blew and was making the tri start off in 3rd instead of 1st. Knocked out a few other things like my speedo. Pheww

[snowman]

OK. so my auto transmission died again last sunday. i thought it was another annulus gear breakage.

it turned out that the torque converter lock up solenoid valve had fused from excess current.

The short story is the lock up switch as sold by Wholesale Automatics is NOT suitable for this type of valve as it runs 12volts and this solenoid is a PWM solenoid that overheats at that consistent voltage.

http://www.tlxtech.com/understanding-solenoids/theory-operation/pwm-solenoid-theory

If you have one of these lock up switches installed - DO NOT USE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

I believe this was the same failure as occurred to Stormtrooper and now me.

I will be speaking to Wholesale in the very near future! it cost me $480 for today's replacement.

/lucky for me the dead short was to earth and blew the fuse and not the TCM (auto blokes words - not mine)

[SEJ GLX-R]

That's not good to hear Snowie


I'm glad (for my sake) we had that chat a few months back and I decided to hold off from getting one.

[Cowboy Dave]

Mine is still in it's packet. Geek's is too I think. But then 4wd26 uses his all the time towing and somehow has had no issues at all. I hate to say it, but we need a few more to fail so the rest of us can get refunds/replacements...

On the positive side Snowie, at least it wasn't that annulus gear all over again, that would have done your head in.

[hotx19]

mine failed after 26000klms
they are now selling the pwm version
but after this failure and already paying for the intial kit i think they should offer an upgrade free of charge
after all i have had to pay for the repair bill to the tranny
pan off nomad valve out etc
not a 5 minute job
john

[Cowboy Dave]

Mate I totally agree. Their behaviour has been really shoddy. As someone who purchased the old version but didn't put it in, knowing that they've identified the problem and developed a solution for it, I would have expected them to contact me and offer a replacement at no cost to me. It's not like it would have been hard for them to track down their customers, particularly since I did my order by email with Rodney who seems to run the joint. If I'd put it in and it had done damage as it has with you, Snowie, Trumpy and who knows how many others, I would be livid.

[snowman]

Mate I totally agree. Their behaviour has been really shoddy. As someone who purchased the old version but didn't put it in, knowing that they've identified the problem and developed a solution for it, I would have expected them to contact me and offer a replacement at no cost to me. It's not like it would have been hard for them to track down their customers, particularly since I did my order by email with Rodney who seems to run the joint. If I'd put it in and it had done damage as it has with you, Snowie, Trumpy and who knows how many others, I would be livid.

do you recommend any good Lawyers CD.

i will try the softly softly approach first.

if it seems the gear they sold was inappropriate 'technically' and that normal and expected use can still cause this failure, then i expect you would have a pretty good case with Fair Trading or whoever is in your state.

i will issue an email to them tomorrow and see what happens.

[salt36]

Fair call Dave, an email pointing out the above may save some headaches for other customers as well.

I am sure some non 'Newtriton.net' people would have this mod done...?

It is only fair..... Like a recall for a faulty item in a new car really....

Snowie yes in VIC there is the 'Office of Fair Trading', 'Consumer Affairs', as well as the national ones, for extreme cases we have 'VCAT' which is a court mediation or 'hearing' before a Magistrate.

Lots of avenues, but the first option is always contact the supplier, they may be helpful ?

[Cowboy Dave]

Yeah then the ACCC to force a recall

[snowman]

Fair call Dave, an email pointing out the above may save some headaches for other customers as well.

I am sure some non 'Newtriton.net' people would have this mod done...?

It is only fair..... Like a recall for a faulty item in a new car really....

Snowie yes in VIC there is the 'Office of Fair Trading', 'Consumer Affairs', as well as the national ones, for extreme cases we have 'VCAT' which is a court mediation or 'hearing' before a Magistrate.

Lots of avenues, but the first option is always contact the supplier, they may be helpful ?

completely agree on the last line. how they react to this most recent saga will be completely in their hands. On a little side note as i live in NSW but i purchased (and they installed) the equipment at their premises in Melbourne, would i have to go through the Victorian OOFT or the NSW Dept of Fair Trading?

[hotx19]

anyone had answer from wholesale automatics lately?
besides your using the switch in correctly
to we have any other options for torque convertor lock up?
john

[salt36]

Fair call Dave, an email pointing out the above may save some headaches for other customers as well.

I am sure some non 'Newtriton.net' people would have this mod done...?

It is only fair..... Like a recall for a faulty item in a new car really....

Snowie yes in VIC there is the 'Office of Fair Trading', 'Consumer Affairs', as well as the national ones, for extreme cases we have 'VCAT' which is a court mediation or 'hearing' before a Magistrate.

Lots of avenues, but the first option is always contact the supplier, they may be helpful ?

completely agree on the last line. how they react to this most recent saga will be completely in their hands. On a little side note as i live in NSW but i purchased (and they installed) the equipment at their premises in Melbourne, would i have to go through the Victorian OOFT or the NSW Dept of Fair Trading?

If needed mate, I would guess start by calling the NSW Fair trading, they would know what steps you need to take next.

[hvac guy]

So should I supply tranny oil at next service what's the best ?
And does the auto change different and lock up better.

Can U tell me your results please

Cheers russ

[snowman]

i can't see much benefit in running anything different oil to the Mits spec auto oil.

[motoz]

I had Wholesale fill ours with the full synthetic oil. On our recent Tassie trip while climbing the hills on the west coast the TC was slipping like crazy.

Trans temps were around 150 degrees on the VDO temp gauge. The car was fully loaded though we weren't towing anything.

It was giving me the shits to be honest. That's the only gripe I have with the auto is the lazy TC