The Automatic Transmission - talk shit thread

[snowman]

Sounds very interesting but how do we go if we have already fitted the larger wholesale automatics nomad valve
Still do able?
I would do anything to reduce the tranny slip and the heat this causes!
John

looks like it is located in the valve body. might be worth ringing Rodney at Wholesale and asking him

[motoz]

Sounds very interesting but how do we go if we have already fitted the larger wholesale automatics nomad valve
Still do able?
I would do anything to reduce the tranny slip and the heat this causes!
John

looks like it is located in the valve body. might be worth ringing Rodney at Wholesale and asking him

If you do call please post the outcome.

[hotx19]

Sorry guys these would be the last people I would call now
After the bullshit I went thru with their lock up switch which burnt out the solenoid and then to have them turn around and say it's not our equipment that caused the problem, but we have redesigned it so it can't happen again
They can go and get ****
Sorry someone else may have to make the call
John

[mattz]

Sorry guys these would be the last people I would call now
After the bullshit I went thru with their lock up switch which burnt out the solenoid and then to have them turn around and say it's not our equipment that caused the problem, but we have redesigned it so it can't happen again
They can go and get ****
Sorry someone else may have to make the call
John

I don't think you're the only one with that sour taste in your mouth.

[motoz]

Sorry guys these would be the last people I would call now
After the bullshit I went thru with their lock up switch which burnt out the solenoid and then to have them turn around and say it's not our equipment that caused the problem, but we have redesigned it so it can't happen again
They can go and get ****
Sorry someone else may have to make the call
John

Agreed !!!

[FredSmith]

I have a 08/2013 GLX+ 4 speed auto.( Yes, it has carpet and alloy's....WooHoo ).
I tow a 1200 kg camper-trailer, with all the 350 nm of torque (factory quoted), which I was about to do tomorrow on my way to Rainbow Beach.

The torque converter, locked and unlocked all the time when using cruise control, but with judicious use of the go peddle (and no cruise) I could keep it locked.

For what it's worth now, and knowing what I know now, I would NEVER of bought a Triton, it just does not suit the purpose that it was advertised ( 3 tonne towing capacity, PPHHAATT). But I have 1 and I'm stuck with it...

Sssoooo.... How do I make it user friendly?

I have a ScanGauge 2. As I was reading through this thread, it was explained how to programme an "X" gauge for tranny temps. SSSWWWEEETTT!!!! It is 2200 hrs (10:00 pm for you none military types ) and I am 3/4 under the weather, (damm you Wild Turkey, I hate/love you so much ) so I download the scangauge manual and go out to the afore mentioned vehicle. It was as easy as 1,2,3, and blow me over with a feather, it worked first time .
I have also neglected to mention that on this very same day I went and had chip installed. It was a Stein... It was a injector modifying type chip, ( I'm a little under the weather right now , but NOT stupid enough to start that argument....Again!!! )
However... On the Dyno, and in 4 wheel drive it produced...wait for it , 350nm at the wheels.

So of I/ we went to rainbow beach.

The car actually pulled the camper without so much as a struggle and the torque convertor stayed LOCKED. I watched the Tranny Temp gauge and it stayed on 78 deg c. Did not move, however if I let it unlock and work as normal, the temp would rise, immediately to 100 deg c and water temp would be around 105 deg c. Between cruise control and and little judicious use of the GO peddle if required, the Triton could now tow my Camper and not be troubled.

[snowman]

Sorry guys these would be the last people I would call now
After the bullshit I went thru with their lock up switch which burnt out the solenoid and then to have them turn around and say it's not our equipment that caused the problem, but we have redesigned it so it can't happen again
They can go and get ****
Sorry someone else may have to make the call
John

you only suffered a burnt out solenoid (yep $500 to remove and replace by tranny specialist) i had to replace my whole gearbox after a lock up disaster (that is attributed to me ) but they repaired it TWICE and it was still (insert rude word in here). So in the end i have replaced the whole box.

I did (let's use the word 'negotiate') that they replace the original 'full duty' (100% duty) solenoid with their new 'pulse' version but it was not easy. Rodney's attitude was that it was not their equipment "because we have 1000's of them out there with no problems". My advice was that it absolutely burned the solenoid out but they would not listen.

My advice is if you have one of these (100 duty originals) DO NOT use it. I reckon someone would have a good argument with a department of fair trading to be honest but who can be arsed. i can't.

That said i ABSOLUTELY believe forums like this should spread advice about these switches because if we can ensure some person saves themselves the $500 repair it is worth it.

That said the theory of the lock up use is very good on these shitbox autos. The newer version with duty cycle arrangement should not burn out the solenoid as it replicates the OEM signal and i still have it installed. NEVER use it in the lower gears whilst changing gears (in simple terms never allow a first to second or second to third gear change in either auto mode or manual shift. Third to overdrive seems to be fine.

Holding it in second gear (say to drive up a long steep hill with trailer) is also fine.

I have not used mine in the sand yet but again i would not recommend gear changes as per above even on sand (unless it was super soft).

FWIW i was chasing to improve my 'lazy' torque converter and i suspect that this new development in this thread with that pressure valve might be the holy grail. So i am keen to hear people who have done that mod and their success.

[jrs184]

Where do you look to see if you have a cooler ?

I had a 1996 Paj GLS manual and it had an extra engine oil cooler, maybe a modified one of those would work on the tranny if it was located lower, or maybe it doesn't need lowering if it works as a thermo siphon... there's probably heaps in the wreckers yards now..

[motoz]

Sorry guys these would be the last people I would call now
After the bullshit I went thru with their lock up switch which burnt out the solenoid and then to have them turn around and say it's not our equipment that caused the problem, but we have redesigned it so it can't happen again
They can go and get ****
Sorry someone else may have to make the call
John

Rodney's attitude was that it was not their equipment "because we have 1000's of them out there with no problems". My advice was that it absolutely burned the solenoid out but they would not listen.

I personally rekon Rocket Rodney is too busy trying to get his mug in EMG publications to really give a toss about his customers.

When we had our work done they blew out out install by 2 days as they were prepping his car before a HC trip and filling his shop with Roo system crap. Considering we'd driven from SA to have the work done, close to $5K worth of modifications and we were paying car hire and accommodation in Melbourne I thought it was pretty poor darts.

I will never give them another cent.

[vol]

Has anyone had dramas when at around the 3000-3500 rpm the transmission feels like it can't make up its mind if it is going to change gears. Generally happens when overtaking or accelarating uphill hot or cold in any gear, won't do it if i manually change gears.
I am starting to think it may be a sensor or something in the computer. The car is about to clock up 200000kms without having any problems and I am going to the cape with my camper in July so want to get on top of it.
I have cleaned to manifold for the carbon and the flow meter and the car uses the same amount of fuel as it always has 10.3l/100km. So i don't think its the fuel/injectors not 100% though
I see people have talked about flashing and the like but not interested in taking to the dealer just yet.
The scangauge shows no faults.
It drives as per normal otherwise generally on highway or in town.
I changed the transmission oil to the Synforce ATF about 20,000 ago and installed cooler, I have heard people say only use mitsi oil since.
Does anyone have any ideas?

[motoz]

Bump,
A convo on one of the FB groups reminded me of this thread. Has there been any movement on fitting this valve by anyone out there?

[hvac guy]

I was about to do the same u beat me to it

[Turner2]

So replaced my timing belt, water pump, hyd tensioner and few other things and in the process while removing and refitting the radiator disturbed the trans cooler fitting and must've cracked it inside the radiator causing water (not coolant as I had only just filled the radiator to test) to enter the trans, it only idled for about 3 mins as I noticed a few drops of trans oil coming from the bleed screw on top of the v6 coolant pipes above the thermostat. I immediately shut it down and drained the engine from water and the trans fluid, I noticed the trans fluid was starting to mix to make that strawberry milkshake colour, blew out all lines and cooler replaced radiator with new and flushed the trans and torque converter fluid with about 22litres of trans fluid. Now I'm not sure what damage I have done if any. I rang a local auto trans bloke and he said "nup you need a full rebuild now any water in the system needs a rebuild" thought to myself "turn it up" I didn't drive it anywhere it only idled for a few mins and I've flushed it a lot with a costly amount of new sp3 fluid. I believe I've got almost all of it out. Any ideas or am I doomed?!! I I run that pm lubricants in every part of the car, engine, diffs, transfer case and synthetic trans oil which he said is good for 200k klms and its dear as poisen so I'm not using cheap mitsu stuff if that helps.
Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.
Cheers

[JeepChallenger]

So replaced my timing belt, water pump, hyd tensioner and few other things and in the process while removing and refitting the radiator disturbed the trans cooler fitting and must've cracked it inside the radiator causing water (not coolant as I had only just filled the radiator to test) to enter the trans, it only idled for about 3 mins as I noticed a few drops of trans oil coming from the bleed screw on top of the v6 coolant pipes above the thermostat. I immediately shut it down and drained the engine from water and the trans fluid, I noticed the trans fluid was starting to mix to make that strawberry milkshake colour, blew out all lines and cooler replaced radiator with new and flushed the trans and torque converter fluid with about 22litres of trans fluid. Now I'm not sure what damage I have done if any. I rang a local auto trans bloke and he said "nup you need a full rebuild now any water in the system needs a rebuild" thought to myself "turn it up" I didn't drive it anywhere it only idled for a few mins and I've flushed it a lot with a costly amount of new sp3 fluid. I believe I've got almost all of it out. Any ideas or am I doomed?!! I I run that pm lubricants in every part of the car, engine, diffs, transfer case and synthetic trans oil which he said is good for 200k klms and its dear as poisen so I'm not using cheap mitsu stuff if that helps.
Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.
Cheers

I think you will be OK.....

Water reacts with the glue holding the friction material in the torque converter and transmission... Eventually the glue comes off and clogs the filter, killing the tranny due to oil starvation...... In your case water hopefully did not get enough time to cause to react with the glue. I drove from The Cape to Sydney (4000km) in my Jeep with a transmission full of water and got away with a only a new TC and clutches. The mechanic (good mate of mine and very honest) said he could not find any other damage. The Jeep had done 120,000ks so we changed all the bearings and solenoids as a precaution while we had the transmission apart. He said had I changed the fluid straight after I sank it at The Nolan's Brook I wouldn't have done any damage at all.....

[Turner2]

Ok mate thanks for that I did read about the water dissolving the glue but I wasn't sure how quickly that reaction takes, hopefully it's ok, I might pull the pan off in a month and change the filter and flush it again just to be sure
Side note spoke to mitsu about the trans filter and they said it's something never needed to be changed unless a failure was evident, does anyone have any info on that filter? Should it be changed every few services??
Thanks for your help mate appreciate it

[JeepChallenger]

On my Jeep I change it every 2 years. Cost only $65 from Jeep.... Good idea to change it if u r worried about contamination..... My Mitsubishi is brand new so I have not got around to it yet.....

[ratstriton]

Can any one tell me what auto is in a 2008 ml triton no super select as I'm trying get a filter kit and a pan gasket.

[snowman]

Can any one tell me what auto is in a 2008 ml triton no super select as I'm trying get a filter kit and a pan gasket.

i cant give you an answer but i can tell you the SS function is the transfer case and the transmission is the same throughout the ML series (4 speed).

[ratstriton]

Can any one tell me what auto is in a 2008 ml triton no super select as I'm trying get a filter kit and a pan gasket.

i cant give you an answer but i can tell you the SS function is the transfer case and the transmission is the same throughout the ML series (4 speed).

Cheers snowman that helps wasn't sure about the ss...

[Jrosey]

Bump,
A convo on one of the FB groups reminded me of this thread. Has there been any movement on fitting this valve by anyone out there?

Same question as above regarding research into the valving to fix the "lazy" torque converter on the MN 5 speed auto?
Cheers

[Colossal]

Without trawling through mountains of posts, yes I did search first, has anyone had issues with 2015 MN 5spd auto over heating when 4wding? or even the smell of hot transmission fluid?

Done a couple of tame days and notice there is a faint smell of hot fluid, not signs of leaking either.

[coughy]

that is normal did it go away as fast as it came??

[Colossal]

that is normal did it go away as fast as it came??

Sure did, smell coming from a breather or something then?

[coughy]

yer it is normal it is the oil doing its job and the tranny cooler at the front letting of the heat
and yes the smell from the breather on top of the box

alll good

[Colossal]

yer it is normal it is the oil doing its job and the tranny cooler at the front letting of the heat
and yes the smell from the breather on top of the box

alll good

Cheers coughy