Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby Mooons on Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:23 pm

Has anyone got the part No for the bursons passenger side cv
Just hoping I got the correct one
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby har05l on Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:23 pm

Mooons wrote:Has anyone got the part No for the bursons passenger side cv
Just hoping I got the correct one


Ultimate or geek would ;)

I know alco could give you the driver's side one :twisted: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby Tony on Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:44 pm

Mooons wrote:Has anyone got the part No for the bursons passenger side cv
Just hoping I got the correct one
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You have the correct one. 8-) Driver side ends with 14, has a flange and is shorter overall in appearance.

Anyone stuck for these things, give me a shout, I always have two sets on hand if you need them.
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby Mooons on Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:03 pm

Thanks Tony
Just got around to replacing the spare before I forgot about it & needed one :wink:
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby Mattstruck on Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:44 pm

didnt think you broke one Mooons??

Was it the one Fraz broke? :roll: :lol:
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby Mooons on Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:48 pm

I now carry 2 sets of everything because I know how fragile the pink truck is
I'm thinking about packing tranny fluid just for you
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby har05l on Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:56 pm

Mooons wrote:I now carry 2 sets of everything because I know how fragile the pink truck is
I'm thinking about packing tranny fluid just for you


Good idea mooons :lol:

So are you carrying bursons, oem or a mix :?:
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby Mattstruck on Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:08 pm

har05l wrote:
Mooons wrote:I now carry 2 sets of everything because I know how fragile the pink truck is
I'm thinking about packing tranny fluid just for you


Good idea mooons :lol:

So are you carrying bursons, oem or a mix :?:


Mate he said he's packing a Trannie :shock: :lol:
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby Mooons on Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:42 am

Mattstruck wrote:
Mate he said he's packing a Trannie :shock: :lol:

correct I call it Matt
Bursons for the left & 2nd hand ome from wreckers on right which was more expensive than the bursons one
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby MrPlow on Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:06 pm

ultimate wrote:Yes Fraz has the bursons CV. It fits both the ML and MN where as the Repco one just fits the ML. At the moment I prefer the Bursons one but only time will tell. Genuine is still the best for long term use.



I have had 2 genuine CV's replaced in 40k km on my MN and have just discovered the left one is on its way out again. Does anybody know if there is any aftermarket CV for the MN that is going to be stronger and more reliable? I have a 2" lift, front and rear lockers and 265/75 16 muddies. I have seen similar set up trucks plenty on here and no one else is complaining about this that i have seen. any information is more than welcome. I would even seriously consider forking out for chrome moly if they are out there.
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby Cowboy Dave on Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:12 pm

There was a recent post by someone who reckoned he'd found a compatible pajero CV that was a bit thicker and maybe more solid. He didn't provide any part numbers or anything though which was disappointing.

I've dug the post up for you: http://www.newtriton.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=12657&p=315663#p315656

Having said that within a couple of days of that post he'd blown up his lokka. I'd assume that's unrelated but some take the view that CVs are a decent fuse and going too far with upgrading them might shift your point of failure to somewhere more expensive.
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby salt36 on Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:23 pm

kenworthitman wrote:
ultimate wrote:Yes Fraz has the bursons CV. It fits both the ML and MN where as the Repco one just fits the ML. At the moment I prefer the Bursons one but only time will tell. Genuine is still the best for long term use.



I have had 2 genuine CV's replaced in 40k km on my MN and have just discovered the left one is on its way out again. Does anybody know if there is any aftermarket CV for the MN that is going to be stronger and more reliable? I have a 2" lift, front and rear lockers and 265/75 16 muddies. I have seen similar set up trucks plenty on here and no one else is complaining about this that i have seen. any information is more than welcome. I would even seriously consider forking out for chrome moly if they are out there.


There must be a reason why the CV's are failing.
Do you have warranty ? perhaps not covered with the front locker.

Still something must be crook to chew out CV's. Is the CV actually grinding or clicking ? Not just the rubbers chewing out ?

I think you should be trying to find out why they need replacing so often, not a good scenario and if there is another problem it may destroy more than just the CV eventually......
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby salt36 on Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:26 pm

I re-read, mate does your front locker disengage properly ?

You would need to test by jacking one wheel off the ground.
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby MrPlow on Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:39 pm

Can anyone tell me for certain the name and contact details of a dealer that can sell me aftermarket CV's for my MN that are definitely going to fit. i have replaced 2 of the factory ones in 40000 k's and im certainly not gaining any faith in them (especially at the $$ they make you fork out) Also, is there any reall reason (eg would be majorly catastrophic) i couldnt put chrome molly CV's in if i can find them anywhere?
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby Cowboy Dave on Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:15 pm

Talk to monster rides (see forum sponsors area and read the thread I linked to above). They were looking into it.

There was also a company called yuri http://www.yuri4x4.com/yuri_mechanical.php that were doing hardened CVs or something like that. When I contacted them they said no dice but there was someone else on the forum that reckoned they'd got them to do something for him. Here's the post for that: http://www.newtriton.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=12657&p=304023&hilit=yuri#p304023

The Bursons CVs seem to be pretty close to the OEM based on some user experience. They are also a lot cheaper to replace if you break them.

One guy in SA was doing okay with repco items but borngeek smashed his repco cvs in about 5 minutes so you'd have to make your own call there.

If you find some chrome moly ones could you come back and tell us? I've dealt with the reason above - you risk putting undue strain on your diff but there's no real data out there to prove that the diffs will break - mainly because no one has found a viable hardened option that has been put into major circulation as yet.
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby snowman on Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:43 pm

if you have done 2 OEM (i assume the same side) in 40k then go the Bursons for not much more than $200 each and see how they fair. it is hard to judge exactly but a few have given the Burson's a bit if stick and they hold up OK.
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby Homer on Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:38 pm

The factory CV's will be as strong or stronger than anything after market.

There is a reason you are breaking them...what are you doing when it happens? eg...full lock full noise? Full droop full noise?

They are a fuse and generally don't fail unless under extreme 4wd situations. If you have done one either side then that may also be because they were weakened from bashing up climbs before hand....many reasons for breaking them...including miss use.
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby Mattstruck on Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:13 pm

Whats Miss Use got to do with it? Does she break a lot of CVs too? :?

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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby MrPlow on Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:12 am

I will reiterate one thing, the car actually has nearly 60k on it, but the first one didn't go until i had all the toys on it at around 15k. saying that, i can undoubtedly put the first one down to driver error. :? (too much berries in a less than perfect situation)

The second was replaced under warrantee because Mitsubishi did a shonky job on the install and were strait onto it when it started failing. now i have had the third one on since then (probably 20k+) and its clicking in 4wd and goes nuts when i put the locker in. so i have been giving wheeling a miss until the problem is rectified.

Most of my wheeling is done with patrols and cruisers (the "real 4wd's") so its needless to say my car does get a bit of punishment. though its mostly clutch abuse. i rarely hit things on the gas and i always try to eliminate wheel spin and excessive throttle, though it does happen. i would hardly consider myself the most experienced 4wd'er, but I'm not a monkey either.

I did purchase this truck with the full intention of modifying it to be a go anywhere rig, not a beach car. So far it has lived up to my expectations and more (aswell as shutting a few big mouth Nissan, Toyota, Land Rover drivers up). I realize the implications of doing this in relation to certain weaknesses in the manufacturing of the vehicle. i am a little skeptical about Mitsubishi's decision to make a "fuse" that is worth $1000!!

I read the Repco CV's werent compatible with the MN, is this still the case? The other option i am investigating is rebuilding them myself once i have a couple of spares in the shed to work with. Has anyone tried this/can shed light on the idea?
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby MrPlow on Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:13 am

Also, what sort of k's is everyone else getting out of theirs?
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby MrPlow on Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:15 am

salt36 wrote:I re-read, mate does your front locker disengage properly ?

You would need to test by jacking one wheel off the ground.



yeah mate, ive tested it previosly and its all engaging/disengaging properly.
the boots are fine, its actually the CV's that are going (clicking etc) the first one was instant failure due to mis-use :oops:
the others have been much more gradual.
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby snowman on Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:54 am

mate at $1000 each try the bursons for a fifth of that.

what have you got to lose. :?
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby MrPlow on Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:00 am

Definitely gonna give em a go man. is the abs ring a problem or do you swap it out from the factory part?
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby snowman on Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:02 am

kenworthitman wrote:Definitely gonna give em a go man. is the abs ring a problem or do you swap it out from the factory part?
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others will answer this more accurately than me but i believe they come with a ring. :? :?

Geek, CD or Fraz will definitely know, or our resident tech expert 26. :lol:

for $800 bucks i'd learn how to swap a ring over. ;)
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Re: Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

Postby fraz91 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:05 am

The ABS ring is supplied with the Bursons CV's. They're a direct replacement on the originals, just be careful when popping the passenger one in as it can catch on the diff and, no matter how hard you hit it, it won't go in. (I may or may not have learnt this the hard way :oops: )

If you have to swap the ring in any case, it's pretty straight-forward. A small (2-3mm) pin punch, a small chisel, a hammer and a little patience is all that's needed. Just make sure you pull it off evenly as they are quite fragile. ;)

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