Triton CV Joints - removal and re-assembly

[TUFF TROOP]

Think the Repco abs ring is part of the cv matt ? From memory of putting mine in

[Mattstruck]

The Mitsi one looks like it too until you give it a tap

Might even fit beside it and cut bike gear off?

Interesting. Be nice if we could make this work.

How does your ABS ring go on your ML TT?

I hear your a bit of a fan of them

[Homer]

From what I've heard Matt the diameters are different.
I haven't said anything until this is confirmed - which should be within a week or two I believe, but unfortunately it's not looking great for the MN as far as Repco CV's go

Again I have absolutely no idea why a company like Repco can get such a minor component so wrong

[mattz]

Does anyone know who manufactures the ones for repco?
Is it repco themselves?
I know Bursons can also supply cvs which are manufactured by a Queensland company called AADi.
Im wondering if they are the same ones ?
I enquired in preparation for fitting my lokka this weekend.... Well helping someone else fit it.
I was almost going to buy the pair of them with the diff oil.

[TUFF TROOP]

Ml abs ring just taps off yeah! I've got two new spare drive shafts and countless other 2nd hand ones in the shed! Once you put that locker in you'll need spares haha,

I'm guessing that Repco will release a mn shaft. But not sure when

[reeldreamer]

I recently purchased both CV's from repco as my mate the manager was leaving and I got them for a crazy cheap price. He told me they are manufactured by a big company in Victoria. I will get the name this saturday when I pick them up.

Mitch

[mattz]

Ahh..... so maybe we have another option.
Does anyone know if Bursons are a national company or just in vic?

[biggibbo]

Ahh..... so maybe we have another option.
Does anyone know if Bursons are a national company or just in vic?

We have Bursons here in Newcastle, and seen 1 in Sydney.

[ultimate]

Bursons is National (except WA) and a very good company to deal with.

I just spoke with our local one and they do list the CVs now (They didn't about 2 months ago when I first enquired). I just ordered a set which should be here by Thursday Morning. I will do a measure and comparison to the Repco ones to check compatibility. The good thing is they actually list MN Triton where as Repco don't.

[mattz]

Bursons is National (except WA) and a very good company to deal with.

I just spoke with our local one and they do list the CVs now (They didn't about 2 months ago when I first enquired). I just ordered a set which should be here by Thursday Morning. I will do a measure and comparison to the Repco ones to check compatibility. The good thing is they actually list MN Triton where as Repco don't.

Great stuff Brendan.
Which did you order?

[ultimate]

Both drivers and passengers from Bursons

[Cowboy Dave]

For the MN?

[TUFF TROOP]

Will be interesting to see if they are suited for the mn!

[ultimate]

Yeah sorry guys. The ones I have order are for the MN. Bursons actually referenced the 2.5L 4x4 MN so they are on the ball

[Mattstruck]

Now were getting somewhere

$1150 is too much to pay for a sacrificial part

[Cowboy Dave]

I thought that might be what you'd get, especially with the Fraz mobile on hand. Very keen to hear how this pans out.

[fraz91]

I'm going to be VERY delighted when these rock up, as my drivers one sounds like it's about to go (and trying to get it booked into mits, let alone getting on the phone to the service dept. is hard enough).

[mattz]

I think you should fit one up under the guise of R and D

[al coholic]

I think you should fit one up under the guise of R and D

Already under control.........Brendan is all over anything that can be considered R&D when it concerns Tritons He has even been granted days off work in the past to come 4wding under the guise of R&D

Just dont tell his old man

[Steane]

Any chance the TC is hard on CVs? Just thinking about this in a quiet moment today, as my understanding of how the traction control works is that the system brakes a wheel after it spins up. So if you are doing some above avg difficulty wheeling you've constantly got the front wheels spinning up and then being braked, or worse still, spinning up and coming back to earth before being braked.

None of that can be great for the little CV that is constantly torquing up and being braked independently, while still under load I presume.

Seems a few blokes with the TC are having CV issues.

Good theory...or should I stick to singing 80s ballads in country hotels?

[al coholic]

Seems a few blokes with the TC are having CV issues.

Its a fair question...but i think up until Fraz and Mattstruck........all publicised CV's on this site had been done on ML's

From what i have seen out on the tracks.....I would say the MN's are probably easier on the CV's as they never let the wheel spin seriously fast. So even if you lift a wheel, it wont come crashing down to earth while still spinning Certainly not like the ML would.

//But i guess the MN motor cant get the wheels to spin quickly anyway....

[fraz91]

Seems a few blokes with the TC are having CV issues.

Its a fair question...but i think up until Fraz and Mattstruck........all publicised CV's on this site had been done on ML's

From what i have seen out on the tracks.....I would say the MN's are probably easier on the CV's as they never let the wheel spin seriously fast. So even if you lift a wheel, it wont come crashing down to earth while still spinning Certainly not like the ML would.

//But i guess the MN motor cant get the wheels to spin quickly anyway....

You 3.2's wouldn't know what wheelspin looks like

On a more serious note though, I do think the TC is pretty hard on CV's. And only for the reason that steed has stated above. While it does help to control the speed at which they spin, ensuring they don't come crashing down and spinning horribly fast, it isn't applying the braking force smoothly. You can feel it through the steering when the TC is activated, as the car starts to make little jumps, and it feels like the brakes are being applied quickly and sharply, rather than slowly. It's almost like the TC stabs the brakes to stagger the wheel's speed, at least that's what it feels like.

In every other sense though, the TC really makes life a lot easier. So long as you've got just enough momentum to ensure you don't get stopped by a rock or slight step, it's just a case of apply consistent power and let the car do the rest. Yes it takes a lot of the guesswork out of 4wding, but by the same token it takes a while to get used to. Where traditional methods would tell you to let off the power, stop and roll back for another, faster attempt, TC encourages you to induce a little wheelspin to keep the car moving.

[Steane]

I'm thinking more of an 'over time' scenario. Death by a 1000 cuts. Wearing them down and weakening them. Might work the opposite way of course and be easier on them in some way. I don't know enough about the TC system to know.

But I do sing a killer "Come on Eileen".

[har05l]

I've done the majority of my wheeling trying to learn the limitations of the TC. I've always driven any obstacle slowing so that I don't get massive wheel spin and if the TC failed would then lock in the diff.

From past experiences they are extremely vulnerable and regardless of what vehicle or power you have a cv will always give 1st.

[fraz91]

Like haro, i've done pretty much all my wheeling with open diffs and TC. To say it's gotten me pretty far is an understatement. There have been times where I've wanted to shoot the b@stard (hill climbs with a clay base), and others where I've praised its existence. It all comes down to driving to its advantages.

With the limited front end flex in these IFS utes, we need to make the most of the flex in the rear, as well as keeping the front wheels on the ground as often as possible. This is a lot easier for you front-locked buggers, as your front wheels are always "on the ground". Those of us without the advantages of a front locker (or rear for that matter) must make do, and so I've learnt to pick my lines accordingly.