New Tritons with higher trim heights

Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby aids84 on Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:49 pm

ultimate wrote:CV's and other drive line components appear to the be the same. :( The only other difference I have noticed is retainer clips on the ball joints. They are hard to see if you don't know they are there. If you don't remove them before undoing the bolt, you will need to repair the thread. :oops: :lol:

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That's interesting, there was a recall where these bolts had to be checked and re-tensioned, apparently there were instances where they had worked loose.

I wonder what the "official" ride height is, lot's of different figures being thrown around here for stock vehicles
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby baito on Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:45 pm

Mine currently at 550 at the front with a arb bar and dual batts under bonnet, only done 4000 k

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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby alpine triton on Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:52 am

after about 1000k's from the dealer with nothing on the car at all
560mm at front, 570mm at rear
with ARB bar and xd9000 on front 530mm
with canopy and trade roof rack on rear 550mm
Would hate to see how much it would have sagged without the heavier coils in the front....
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby Snooozy on Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:56 pm

while I was reading the other MN suspension thread a thought crossed my mind :? ;)

If Mitsu have raised the sussy height to almost 2" lift equivalent, have they changed anything in the rear to combat possible shudder problems :?:

They may have a stock solution we can use ;)
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby macca002 on Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:37 am

550 front with bullbar and a smidge over 560 in the rear.
With the 32's and bullbar, I have actually found the ride to actually be a bit more plush over the front. Will see how it goes long term with ride height.

Rear still needs a good set of shocks at the very minimum - like most stock leaf rears, it handles a bit harsh unloaded.
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby ultimate on Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:29 am

Snooozy wrote:while I was reading the other MN suspension thread a thought crossed my mind :? ;)

If Mitsu have raised the sussy height to almost 2" lift equivalent, have they changed anything in the rear to combat possible shudder problems :?:

They may have a stock solution we can use ;)


Unfortunately there is no factory fix. They have kept the rear suspension the same and just raised the front.
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby geoduck on Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:15 pm

Reading various reports in the UK, the general consensus was the front and rear do not work together and are out of sync. Although it improves with some weight over the rear axle. Has this improved?
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby ultimate on Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:36 pm

In my opinion it is worse now with the higher front coils. The Triton has a very high payload and towing capacity. In my opinion there should be a minimum of 50mm difference front to rear when the vehicle is empty. If the original "unladen" heights are 560 front and 580 rear; the rear is going to sit lower than the front with relatively light loads. This going to compromise the handling and throw out the brake proportioning (balance front to rear).
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby bigcol on Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:56 pm

Mines a 13 plated MN.
The front is out of sync with the rest of it. You can feel the front shocks getting out of whack with the springs over uneven bitumen or corrugations
As soon as you put some weight on it , it drags its backside along the road.
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby stackator on Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:01 pm

Interesting thread
My 2012 MN with ARB Delux Winch Bar and TJM RB6 has the following measurements:

Hub Centre to guard
Front 530mm
Rear 570mm
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby shortSteve on Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:56 pm

IIRC my13 cars (mine was built nov 12 and is a my13) use the older "GLX" spec front suspension which was firmer than the GLR /GLXR, but rears are all the same as previous GLR/GLXR (comfort/sport), also all MY13's have the 3.917 diff (manuals).
My GLX bottomed it's rears out with around 400kg and a trailer with around 150kg down weight numerous times accross the nullabor and between Port Augusta and Broken Hill, was absolutely shocking and unloaded the front quite badly, the ABS would kick in on even moderate braking on the fronts. I didn't go with a Ultimate suspension due to lack of dealers in w.a and a good relationship with another brand, but i only got around 1/2 inch lift on the front from standard (sits at 565mm atm) but a 2 inch on the rear easy (630mm atm). Of interest tho, is i did get the claimed 50mm increase from how the suspension was at time of fitting with the front ARB bar (was sitting just under 520mm) and the rear, when loaded was sitting around 530mm and unloaded but with rear protection bar, canopy, roof rack and awning around 560mm. The change to how it drives is amazing, a great additional feature is the rear bar no longer scrapes at places it used too :)

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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby golden on Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:26 pm

Hi,
Has any-one measured if this equates to an increase in ground clearance under the front bash plates? I assume it would?
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby mIwoo on Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:32 pm

ground clearence is through bigger tyres
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby NowForThe5th on Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:41 pm

mIwoo wrote:ground clearence is through bigger tyres


Only at the rear. IFS means diff goes up with suspension lift.
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby mIwoo on Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:54 am

ok, thanks.
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby ultimate on Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:09 am

Just a quick note, the challengers are also coming out with the raised front end from factory.
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby bill65 on Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:51 am

ultimate wrote:Just a quick note, the challengers are also coming out with the raised front end from factory.

Are they std high in the rear too as the triton
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby ultimate on Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:06 pm

Yeah, raised coils in the front, standard in the rear. The one we did yesterday came in basically level with no weight in the back.
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby golden on Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:40 pm

ultimate wrote:Just a quick note, the challengers are also coming out with the raised front end from factory.


Hi,

For info... My Challenger is a MY12, June Build 01/13 compliance Base 4X4 Auto. Approx 550-555M all 4 wheels.

I think the front end may be a bit stiffer as It does feel a bit more sure footed then my previous ML and it doesn't wallow around as much, however it would be a bit lighter and the coil spring rear would also tighten it up a bit.

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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby ultimate on Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:42 pm

Thanks for the info Golden. I think Mitsubishi has made a big mistake not upgrading the rear suspension. Your vehicle is basically level as is. Imagine how badly the rear would drop with a 300kg ball weight :o
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby paddlingfool on Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:08 pm

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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby BillMcQuade on Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:14 pm

05/13 build GLX manual, both measured from wheel centre to edge of flare;

555mm front

560mm rear (Mitsi canopy & towbar fitted and 3 kids bikes in the back)
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby bill65 on Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:48 pm

ultimate wrote:In my opinion it is worse now with the higher front coils. The Triton has a very high payload and towing capacity. In my opinion there should be a minimum of 50mm difference front to rear when the vehicle is empty. If the original "unladen" heights are 560 front and 580 rear; the rear is going to sit lower than the front with relatively light loads. This going to compromise the handling and throw out the brake proportioning (balance front to rear).

the ml was better too drive STD my13 is way out off balance
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby brodical on Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:38 am

Jst for matter of interest thought I would measure the stock sussy....2011 glxr fl 545. Fr550. Rear 580 both that's with the helper springs on... I'm not running a bar ,jst nudge and spotties but for the stock gear it seem to be holding up ok...must have been on of the first with the higher trim heights??
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Re: New Tritons with higher trim heights

Postby ultimate on Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:29 pm

Your GLX would have the HD suspension pack from factory. This has been out for a very long time and sits the vehicles about 20mm higher than standard. The front would also be lifting up a bit more due to the extra weight you have in the back.
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