'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

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'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby 2012GLX-R on Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:11 pm

Hey guys,

I've just recently popped the bonnet on my car to measure up putting dual batteries when I realized that the old girl is starting to rust. When I purchased the car new I opted for that so called electronic rust scam protection and upon removing my bash plates (which are almost rust free apart from where they bolt onto the car) I noticed this:

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Something tells me that the 'rust protection' isn't doing what it's designed for. If anything it's speeding up the process. The car is a little over 2.5 years from it's build date. Also I've taken it up the beach about 8-10 times in its life. But I've taken it to the under body wash at Noosa Foreshore there everytime or put a sprinkler with pretty high pressure under it for a couple hours.

Would I have a warranty claim on the protection unit here?
Interested to hear others opinions.
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby bigjobs on Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:28 pm

They do say that rust never sleeps...

Anyway, I'd be following it up with warranty and I'd probably leave out the part about the beach. Whilst they may suspect it, I dunno how they might go about proving it... unless they go all CSI on it.
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby Lunny on Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:32 pm

looks more like surface rust... not to much to worry about... sand it back and give it a coat of killrust...

warranty will laugh to away to be honest... imo
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby viking shippy on Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:34 pm

No rust protection electronically for me...see I'm a shipwright and I know electronic cathodic protection only works in ....yes you guessed it in water....
So ever since I've owned my truck I use lanotech rust protection once twice a year..
I have chip marks from rocks on my under body and a little rust here and there...
If steel has no protection on it .....it rusts ....period.....
So driving on sand and gravel roads chips the black paint off your chassis and it rusts...
Good luck with a warranty claim...
I'd go for a drive on the beach again to clean of the rust then wash the salt off....and paint the chassis or spray some lanocoat to protect it ...then moove on...to planing your next outing in your truck.
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby mad992 on Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:47 pm

Yes shippy you are correct Lanotech is great stuff.

But take it back to the stealers and demand a refund on the rust protection.

can i ask what name is it ? ERPS ? and how many pads have you installed 6 or 10 ?
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby Duck on Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:40 pm

They do give you a bit of grief, but as VS stated works fantastic whilst under water. IF you look at wharfs around the world that utilise the technology, the part of the pole that stays submerged looks fantastic, :mrgreen: the part's of the pole that come in and out with the tide not so good. :shock:
I Had a work vehicle GLXR Triton a few years back that had the electronic rust protection installed & I started getting rust on where the front nudge bar attached to the car, they did come good on it but as it was done by the dealer not sure weather the rust company or the dealership took the hit. But always worth asking the question :roll:
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby myself62 on Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:37 pm

The dealer sells a 1 pad electronic protection whereas ARB, TJM and the like sell or recommend 6 or more pads.
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby 2012GLX-R on Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:31 pm

Alright. I know what I'll be doing over easter.
Not sure how many pads are on the car.
I'll the douche bags tomorrow and ask.
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby psaunders on Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:47 pm

I got the one from the dealership from new and didn't know much about it so I thought it was a good idea at the time! $1k lighter in the pocket and then found out it only had one pad to the chassis!
Queried the dealer about it and was told that's all they stock in terms of electronic rust proofing and they put that on all the cars they sell...
To add insult to injury, I found out I could have got the same unit but with 4 pads from tint-a-car for less than half of what the stealer charged me... :(
Moral of the story always shop around and don't always trust the guy trying to sell you something.
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby 2012GLX-R on Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:51 pm

I dare say I'd be in the same boat. In that case I wonder how much the pads are to buy
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby hvac guy on Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:58 pm

I have the 6 pad system and do a lot of beach work and rate it
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby 2012GLX-R on Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:58 pm

Where are the pads located?
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby Lunny on Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:02 pm

aisle 11, feminal hygeine... ask a hilux driver for better directions....


Sorry.... that had to be said lol....

Back on topic....

in door panels, on inside of panels etc etc
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby viking shippy on Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:28 pm

If it did work and I'm not saying that... but if it did ...you would need a pad for each panel..
That's at least 11 and a few for the chassis....15 can you imagine the wires...PITA.
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby Beaker on Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:36 am

Thanks for the post - I was considering it, but think I will now give it a miss! :shock:

I'll just spend the cash on lanotech or something similar.
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby 1750RE on Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:12 am

As my Triton is used mainly for my boat I use Macs or Saltaway, mix it up in a spray bottle and spray underneath once or twice a year, coats the metal, removes the salt and grime, no more rust! (As any boatie will tell you, you could spend a week spraying fresh water on anything covered in sea water and when the water evaporates the salt just crystalizes and stays where it was, it needs to be be mechanically or chemically removed)
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby GLX58 on Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:55 am

As indicated, people are better off with lanotech or similar.

I have it on my car, but only because I didn't pay for it. Still get spot rust as with any car, can't comment of 'proper' effectiveness as I don't drive on beaches so far.

One thing to be aware of when you are going for a refund, some of them apply (mine had it on the paperwork, I laughed when i read it) conditions such as it must undergo a maintainence check by the supplier every 12 months. However, depending on the end result if it's not fit for purpose they are breaching ACL not matter what 'clauses' they add. Good luck with it, hope you get a refund.
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby 2012GLX-R on Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:25 pm

Some interesting reading. I think I'll just buy 10 more pads and go nuts. I was just checking out Masters and Bunnings. I came across this:

https://www.masters.com.au/product/1000 ... black-2-5l

For the hard to reach places

https://www.masters.com.au/product/1000 ... black-285g

Would it do the trick? If I sandblast underneath it? And soak it with the sprinkler for an hour or so?
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby NowForThe5th on Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:34 pm

That Hammerite is not an automotive paint. Not suitable. If you want the best, paint based, rust protection then an epoxy primer followed by a bitumen based paint will give the best results. Really, though, the factory proyection systems are pretty good these days. It's rare that I see a reasonably modern vehicle that has a significant rust problem.
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby 2012GLX-R on Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:48 pm

I have these in the shed. Been there about 6 months. Dunno where they came from.

http://www.bunnings.com.au/rust-oleum-u ... k_p1580677
http://www.bunnings.com.au/white-knight ... r_p1571024

Once sanded and primed should I get something like this?
http://www.bunnings.com.au/gripset-bett ... r_p0960165
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby NowForThe5th on Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:53 pm

Also not automotive. Designed to waterproof your house.

There are special products available from automotive paint distributors that are designed for the job. Using the wrong product inevitably ends in tears. For a few dollars more it's worth using the right stuff.
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby hvac guy on Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:59 pm

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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby 2012GLX-R on Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:16 pm

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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby NowForThe5th on Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:08 pm

The KBS stuff? Yes, probably ok. I was thinking more in terms of something like this:
http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Septone-Rust-Shield-4-Litre.aspx?pid=105709&menuFrom=802#Recommendations
I'm not a big fan of Septone products, but this stuff is ok.

That spray can primer is just a high heat primer. This is what I use for bare metal that needs the best protection.
http://www.axaltacoatingsystems.com.au/cromax-nz/dpr-840R-nz
It's a two pack product so needs proper PPE. Apply as a high build or thin it as a sealer and it finishes like silk. So tough that it doesn't even need topcoats. Awful stuff to sand though, especially once it has fully cured.
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Re: 'So Called' Electronic Rust Protection

Postby deermaster on Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:00 am

I have the electronic rust protection on my 2007Triton and was put on by the bloke before me. There is no rust anywhere in my vehicle that I can find and don't know how many pads it has? Mine has been in salt water a few times putting boat in and it doesn't get washed very often either. I do however always wash under it after a fishing trip. Maybe the newer ones are built from tinnier metal?? :lol:
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