power steer drop out proved to dealer

[pickle]

Certainy is made in Thailand ! As most of the dual cab / utes are.
Dave

[Jitsukablue]

Perhaps the steering sub assembly is made in Japan? Vehical is definite 'made' in Thailand.

Sts, which dealer bought it back?
Why would DC do testing on MMAL vehicles?

[sts]

hi guys,

you are correct on the thailand / japan point, (was thinking one thing and wrote the other!)

Mitsubishi falls under the daimler chrysler umbrella. The testing was done by DC because i happened to bump into the DC engineer and explained the situation to him, he then researched the issue and received approval from DC to do the testing according to the mercedes benz standards.

Dealership which bought the vehicle back was in Port Elizabeth, SA.

[pickle]

Not quite so with Mitsubishi and Daimler/ Chrysler.

They signed an agreement in March 2000 which gave D/C 37% of Mitsu. The car market was rapidly in decline from 2004 and D/C declined to provide additional financial support to Mitsu. Nov 11 2005 D/C sold all remaining shares of MMC and thus ceased to have a capital relationship with MMC.

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/NEWS/pdf/20060427see.pdf
Page 13.

Dave

[subi_man]

hmmm all very interesting :eek:

[sts]

interesting. all correspondence i have had in relation with this issue has been directly with DC SA?

anyway i dont care who is who, at the end of the day this characteristic is totally unacceptable. i almost spent my christmas holidays behind bars and i can assure you that the prison cells in SA are a place you dont want to be in!! can you imagine trying to explain to a judge that you hit someone because your car steering wheel would not turn??

[Jitsukablue]

Just out of interest, I had another go since the my pump has been replaced, and it did it again. This time it was more lumpy than cutting out, but still cutting out (just not totally)

[scubapro]

That is what is still happening to mine after a flush which cost me $93-00.

It is a lot better but still not perfect.

[Dave]

I've not heard of any problems here in the UK so wether it's a problem with the 3.2 engine....?

I've tried to get mine (April 06 model) to do it and it just won't.

[Jitsukablue]

Then this morning after the drive to work, couldn't get it to do it, perhaps it was because it was cold.

[fireball]

so does this affect autos or is it just manuals.??.i'll have to try it on the way home

[trickydevil]

I have the same proplem with mine. It's only when accelerating hard with revs around 1500-2500. Steering gets very heavy.

[slimv6]

gents,

I managed to get an ongoing hate mail about my steering and rear end thru to my stealership on thursday and tooke my car to collect the dealer principal and the sales manager in the car on monday. so they know about it.

My mail was to do with an array of crap service and just plain old stupid service advisor staff. The vehicle's a V6 and they stamped the 1st service under diesel. (scratched out the 10000km print and wrote 15000 over it.) Wonder who can't read when they stamp the book...

They never disclosed a job card or anything, so for the time being, I have never seen ANY service work documentation for the vehicle.

In short, they agree there's an issue. So I've left the car there for 2 weeks while I'm in china.

I also asked about recalls and TSB, concerning the steering column bearing, the leaf springs and steering, they will "let me know"
:evil:

[Buzzy]

Left it there for 2weeks :eek:
They have a good run around vehicle now, let the apprentices go and get lunch in it, use your fuel.

[subi_man]

I proved the heavy steering issue to my dealer today, (helps that he nearly drove into a tree in the carpark when the steering went heavy )

They had heard there "might" be an issue and now will investigate this with Mitsubishi and report back to me :roll:

[scubapro]

Thanks subi, but when I emailed Mitsu direct they did not reply.

Why I am not surprised, all these utes being sold around the world with potential steering defects:eek: :eek:

[FreestyleCab]

Had mine in for the 15000 service today and the service manager went for a drive in my ute out in the carpark. He said he 'felt' what I was talking about.

In everyday driving the heavy steering issue has only happened to me a few times, when all the planets aligned and the circumstances were right.....revs, speed, steering manouver etc...

But, using scubapro's post as a guide, I can replicate the issue almost every time I try it in an empty carpark. Its not impossible to steer for me, but my wife would have trouble coping with it.

The service guy said he will make some phone calls to MMA......

Will be interesting to see what comes of it and see if MMA's warranty is all they hype it to be on the TV commercials.

My squeaky suspension also got done today......without me even asking them to do it!!!

[slimv6]

I heard they installed a new bracket to keep the springs in line, Is this true? Almost like a U-bolt over the spring pack? (or just some angelpee on the squeaky parts.) I never had anything 'changed' when they did mine, looks like a lube of some sorts...
Also noticed how thy springs come out of alignment when one side of the rear is in the air... hmmm:x

[pickle]

Guys I have been doing some research on the power steering issue and talked to a service tech about it with no reports from him of power steering issues. Reading through some tech itims on the Triton the power steering unit has an oil pump responsive to engine RPM and is used for stable steering at high speed. Now I wonder when your revs are up arond 3000 this is what is actually happening as the power steering is not as responsive at high RPM.
Not saying that this is the problem with all of them but could go on to explain why some of people are having problems and others aren't.
Dave

[slimv6]

I don't know about the rest of the folks, but mine only get's hard when it get to the the middle... erm, what I mean to say is that when the steering wheel is centered again. (if it's responsive to rpm, shouldn't it be hard for the duration of time that it's at high rpm?)

maybe the speed sensor should be the one giving the pump it's instruction, after all, in low range, you've got tommes of rpm, but no speed??

[Stevo8]

Read this post and tried mine, guess what, its jams up as well.
I think your onto something Pickle, cos with revs in 1st gear the steering becomes super heavy (no power assist), but same speed in 2nd i.e. lower revs the steerings fine..
Is anyones steering not effected?

[King Triton]

Ive got an auto and i will give it a try in drive and then by selecting each gear and see what happens, just need to find a car aprk big enough.

[fixa]

My 03/08 build does it too.....

I'm not 100% convinced that this is the ultimate test of the system though..

Still be talking to the stealer about it though

[Greedy]

Was on the way to work this morning and got stopped in the traffic. Decided to change lanes from a standing start and nearly didn't straighten up again due to power steering drop out. So now the fight with the stealer begins. I've rung them and the so-called service guy says "I haven't heard of that happening before". He seemed to change his tune a bit when I quoted the hot line fix number. Will get back to me once he's done some research apparently. Thank christ for this site.

[Dave]

I reckon it's something to do with the way the steering components are situated in the engine bay.
As far as I'm aware there haven't been any issues with the 2.5's.
I'm guessing the 3.2 engines have the ancilliaries in a different place.

I wouldn't mind seeing the engine bay of a 3.2 to compare it to mine.

Just a thought.