Mitsubishi Motors Engine Oil Treatment

[Longranger1]

Anyone tried this? I bought a tin of it from the stealer - PN: MZ106001EX. Costs around $11.00 for a 200ml can which is sufficient to treat an engine.

On the can it says, "This product is a high-grade engine oil additive containing organic molybdenum. It will reduce the friction coefficient to one-third and protect the engine from metal wear, etc. Can be used on all engine types including gasoline and diesel".
The blurb on the can also states the following:

*Upgrades acceleration performance

*Reduces fuel consumption

*Reduces engine noise

*Prevents extraordinary wear inside engine

*Prevents oil oxidative deterioration

Given the disclaimer about oil additives in the owner's manual, I thought it was interesting. Big claims made here.

I'll give it a go anyway.

[jetcrew]

I saw it there the other day when I bought the fuel treatment and old oil flush treatment, I just figured 2 possible snake oil purchases in one day were enough,

But let us know how you go , as a third shinny bottle each service can,t hurt can it

Jet

[gregned]

*Upgrades acceleration performance

*Reduces fuel consumption

*Reduces engine noise

Sounds like a CHIP in A CAN!

[motoz]

Snake Oil

[Longranger1]

*Upgrades acceleration performance

*Reduces fuel consumption

*Reduces engine noise

Sounds like a CHIP in A CAN!

That's exactly what I was thinking!

[NowForThe5th]

There is no question that these things work, otherwise they'd be placing themselves on the block for false and misleading. They will have test results that prove their claim. Done in a laboratory, under strictly controlled conditions. But they're very careful not to actually specify how much the improvement was on the product label.

So, Joe Gullible comes along, reads the label and says "Geez! That must be good stuff. Improve my fuel economy and make my engine last forever". Little does he know that it's just cost him $11.00 to save 11 cents.

Molybdenum snake oil.

[dinos4x4]

oil companies spend millions of dollars on R&D oil additive are a waste of money

The Services guy at the dealer told me the oil additive who lessen the time it takes for my engine to seize if i got a whole in my sump WHAT A KNOB

[Longranger1]

No doubt that molybdenum is an effective extreme pressure anti-wear additive - it has been around for years. It is also hard to beat as an assembly lubricant - especially for camshafts and followers.

Whether it is really required or not is another matter. Mitsubishi wont warrant the use of oil additives as stated in the owner's manual. But if they market it... well, that's ok then it would seem. I wont bag the product, it could well be a good thing. The diesel injector cleaner they sell works well I've found (at least as well as other stuff out there).

I have used PTFE additives in diff's and machinery gearboxes and found it works very well. Not all of it is snake oil. There is a ceramic oil additive out there that I wouldn't touch - seems like adding fine sand into your oil.

If the oil you use is good quality then it probably isn't needed for most part IMHO.

[Longranger1]

Double post. Oops.

[motoz]

Anyone remember Slick 50 ?

[MLTRIT08]

Anyone remember Slick 50 ?

I remember, pity they messed with it !

[Longranger1]

Well I did end up changing the oil and it does seem smoother and quieter using this stuff. It may also be the oil used (Penrite 5w-40 diesel semi-syn') as opposed to the Valvoline synthetic used at the last service.
Nothing definite there.

I'll see if it makes a difference to the fuel economy - surely if it can reduce internal engine friction to 1/3 then it may make a small difference. Time will tell.

[Honky]

I am sure I have read some time ago that whilst molybdenum is good for an engine it is not good for a turbo becauae of the extreme heat.
It caused carbon to coat inside the turbo including the bearings especially when the engine is shut down thus reducing the lubrication effect of the oil.

Honky

[mad992]

So, Joe Gullible comes along, reads the label and says "Geez! That must be good stuff. Improve my fuel economy and make my engine last forever". Little does he know that it's just cost him $11.00 to save 11 cents.

Molybdenum snake oil.

Geez 5th
i wish u would stop talking bout me like that

[g4cube]

The difference you are feeling is just that oil mate I put that in mine oil that is and the difference is simply amazing.

[Longranger1]

I am sure I have read some time ago that whilst molybdenum is good for an engine it is not good for a turbo becauae of the extreme heat.
It caused carbon to coat inside the turbo including the bearings especially when the engine is shut down thus reducing the lubrication effect of the oil.

Honky

Not that likely to be a problem for me as I don't shut down until the pyro reads 200 C or less. You are right though about hot shut downs shortening turbo life. One thing we used on big ag machinery was an oil accumulator which provided oil to the turbo on shutdown.
You could hear the turbo coasting down after shutdown - not real good without an oil feed to support it for 10 or 15 seconds.
Molybdenum = carbon build up? First I've ever heard of it.

[Honky]

to the people that like slick 50 from the Oil guy

Slick 50's $20M lawsuit.
[slick50]

In 1997, Blue Corral, the manufacturers of the Slick 50 engine oil additive, were banned by the Federal Trade Commission from making claims about reduced engine wear, increased fuel economy and lower running temperatures in their advertising in America. The Federal Commission found the company's claims of increased performance and reduced wear were unsubstantiated, and Blue Corral agreed to pay upwards of $20M in damages to affected customers.
FTC Reports pertaining to Slick50.

Read more: http://www.carbibles.com/additives.html#ixzz27fCAHxy9

[godzilla_rising]

Molybdenum being bad? While I'm no expert, I know we use it as an anti seize in the hot part of the engines so that we can get nuts off later!!! When an engine is reaching nearly 1100 deg C it helps!!!