Oils aint Oils

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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby Cowboy Dave on Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:19 am

scalvert wrote:
Cowboy Dave wrote:No 15W is fine. Also depends on your climate as to which one you use when you look in your manual. I run a valvoline full synthetic in mine. Yes it's pricey and yes I dump it every 7,500kms but I like to treat the Triton as well as I possibly can in the hope she will look after me in return. So far, mostly so good.



Which valvoline are you using mate? I dumped the oil out at 1000km, and i've been using Valvoline MST 5w30 with Nippon Max oil filters. It may be overkill but its had oil and filter changes at 1000km and 6000km, as I usually do it every 5000.


Here's what I posted about it back in May 2010 in this same thread (quoting from responses I got from both Penrite and Valvoline as to which oil was best for the 2.5):

Cowboy Dave wrote:
Thank you for your enquiry.
Our website gets updated quarterly, so your model vehicle will be in the next upcoming update.

Based on the specifications you have provided (ACEA A3/B3 A3/B4 A5/B5 and API CF-4), it indicates that you do not actually have a Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF).
A catalytic converter may be fitted on your exhaust.
With these specifications, HPR Diesel 5 (semi-synthetic SAE 5W-40) is our recommendation.

I have attached the HPR Diesel 5 information sheet, for your perusal.


Now here's what Valvoline had to say:
The specifications have not changed on your vehicle from 2009.
We are waiting on our Lubrication Advisor to update our Web Site.
Our Engine oil recommendation for your vehicle is;
Synpower 5W-40

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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby RHKTriton on Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:05 pm

You're right GLRKenny...it is SIMPLE. I have over the last 36years given the "dealers" ( sounds a bit druggy :) ) numerous opportunities to start with the service routine. But you know what? Problems usually start when you let someone else touch your vehicle.

Obviously there are the reputable mechanics out there, but with the dealers the word TLC just doesn't seem consistant.

Another recent example, a friend with a a fairly new Colorado had the heavy towing pack installed by the dealer in preparation for a big trip next year. Just had it in for service ( and I think to fit auto fluid cooler).

The day after on the way to work, transmission dropped the oil and was going nowhere. He had it floated to the dealer who in response started with all the typical obstacles.

Sorry to go off topic, but I had to vent this.

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Oils aint Oils

Postby mattz on Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:05 pm

RHKTriton wrote:Did you notice any difference in noise going 5-30 Mattz? I'm thinking of trying that next oil change.

CD..you must be loaded to be able to "piss" oil away like that.

The Euro engines are getting well over 30k out of those oils, so unless you're driving through rivers every week and desert sand storms regularly - waste of money.


I didn't notice any change......I've been running it for a little while now.
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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby vol on Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:05 pm

Just changed oil decided to give the synforce cruiser oil a go do 1000km / week see how it runs
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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby evlids on Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:57 am

Hey Guys, not too sure how dead this thread is but I'm after some advice on gear and diff oils. Bought my ML 3.2 diesel second hand so want to replace them all, I run synforce engine oil and can't say a bad thing about it.

Would like a recommendation for rear diff oil with factory locker, front diff oil and gearbox oil if anyone can let me know what they use?

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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby srb on Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:20 am

Just use any hypoid 80w-90 GL5 spec gear oil for your diffs. If you have factory diff lock then you don't need the LSD rated oil. ;-)
For the manual gear box use a high quality 75w-85 GL4 spec gear oil.
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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby emjayar on Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:33 am

srb wrote:Just use any hypoid 80w-90 GL5 spec gear oil for your diffs. If you have factory diff lock then you don't need the LSD rated oil. ;-)
For the manual gear box use a high quality 75w-85 GL4 spec gear oil.


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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby evlids on Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:34 pm

legend, thanks.
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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby alex_m_84 on Tue May 20, 2014 1:30 pm

This thread is huge.
My Dealer mentioned they run Castrol semi synthetic 15W40 which i assume can only be the Magnetic.

I've read up most of this thread and see that a lot of people don't like this oil.

Is there a general recommended oil for the 2014 Triton 2.5 Diesel?
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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby Longranger1 on Tue May 20, 2014 3:19 pm

alex_m_84 wrote:This thread is huge.
My Dealer mentioned they run Castrol semi synthetic 15W40 which i assume can only be the Magnetic.

I've read up most of this thread and see that a lot of people don't like this oil.

Is there a recommended oil for the 2014 Triton 2.5 Diesel?


Plenty of good oils out there. My preference is Penrite 5w40 diesel or Caltex Delo 400. Delo is reasonably priced so you can afford to have an oil change every 7000km's. I never let mine go past 7500km for the engine oil. Call me old fashioned, but regular oil changes equals long service life.
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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby Kegsy on Tue May 20, 2014 5:03 pm

I run delo400 in the engine, I used to run Synforce but its not the easiest to get a hold of. Delo is easy to buy and is a top notch diesel oil.

Every other fluid in my truck is nulon. I tried penrite for a while in the gearbox and diffs but I always end up going back to nulon.

I also run ATF in the manual trans and dump it every 15,000 kms.
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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby Longranger1 on Tue May 20, 2014 5:14 pm

Do you get much rollover noise with the atf in the gearbox Kegsy?
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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby Kegsy on Tue May 20, 2014 5:28 pm

No worse than I was getting with the hypoid, which I was happy about.

The syncro's are working much nicer these days on the ATF, no baulking etc. Little extra friction seems to be helping a lot.
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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby Kegsy on Tue May 20, 2014 5:29 pm

But I do have a fully dynamatted floor-pan so that may be helping to reduce noise...
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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby alex_m_84 on Tue May 20, 2014 6:02 pm

Cool, thanks for the info guys.
I heard the Magnatec was a bit of an old technology oil. I have some Delo 400 at home that i ran in the Hilux so will continue to use it.

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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby har05l on Tue May 20, 2014 7:14 pm

Kegsy wrote:I run delo400 in the engine, I used to run Synforce but its not the easiest to get a hold of. Delo is easy to buy and is a top notch diesel oil.

Every other fluid in my truck is nulon. I tried penrite for a while in the gearbox and diffs but I always end up going back to nulon.

I also run ATF in the manual trans and dump it every 15,000 kms.


Are you using 10-30 or 15-40 in the delo Kegsy ?

My warranty is almost out and I'm going to start my own services.

I've also found non genuine filters for $21 from a place in Arndell Park 8-)
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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby Kegsy on Tue May 20, 2014 7:56 pm

15W40 Ken.

Any info on the filters?
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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby alex_m_84 on Tue May 20, 2014 9:08 pm

Just regarding the Delo 400.
Delo's site mentions the multigrade is for Pre 2007 vehicles http://www.deloperformance.com/products ... -oils.aspx

Is this correct? Should i use the Delo 400 LE SAE 15W-40
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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby har05l on Tue May 20, 2014 10:27 pm

Kegsy wrote:15W40 Ken.

Any info on the filters?


Thanks mate ;)

Filters link http://www.sydneyfilters.com.au/contact-us-1/

Just looking at more of their stuff, fuel filter $23 :shock:

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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby Kegsy on Wed May 21, 2014 8:15 am

Cheers Ken. Definitely worth having some at that price, especially the fuel.

I'll have to check it out later...
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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby sal_troy on Thu May 22, 2014 5:37 am

Hi all. Had my 2012 GLX 2.5td Triton serviced yesterday. Dealer said they put in Shell Rimula x 15w40, which to my understanding is a standard diesel fleet style oil. Service manager said if I use anything else may effect my warranty. I looked up Shell website oil guide for my model but no mention of Rimula x. Results were Shell helix ultra 5w40 or HX7 10w40. I used Caltex Delo400 in my MK triton & loved it but no mention on there website for my model, they recommend Caltex Havoline C3 5w30. I can get this oil fairly cheap through oil depot but not sure what to use. Any thoughts?
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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby Cowboy Dave on Thu May 22, 2014 7:09 am

Use whatever you like provided it meets the specs in your owner's handbook. The oil companies tend to recommend their highest end oil in my experience.
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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby RHKTriton on Thu May 22, 2014 7:45 am

If that dealer suggested that your warranty may be affected by using a different oil, he could be on shakey ground in regards to the Trade Practices Act.

His only legal reply should have include "you can use anything that meets the manufacturer's specs."

I use all the respective Nylon oils and have performed as they should. Also save when on special at Super cheap.
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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby Cowboy Dave on Thu May 22, 2014 8:19 am

Nulon. Spellcheck gone silly no doubt as my phone tried the same. The dealer was half right in that your budget may be effected - but only if you were silly enough to use the wrong spec of oil.
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Re: Oils aint Oils

Postby sal_troy on Thu May 22, 2014 8:49 am

In regards to using Caltex Havoline full synthetic C3 5w30. Will this oil be too light for qld conditions? Is Delo400 suitable for 2.5td motor?
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