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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby alian on Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:52 am

I thought so, I asked him the other day after reading this thread and put 2 and 2 together, Jezz is a legend.
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby salt36 on Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:42 am

Getting there mate 8-)

The fuel and spark maps will start from zero load and go up to 260% so if you take the turbo off for any reason the engine will run up to 100% load and the ECU will fuel and time it accordingly. No need to have a separate tune for that.
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby turner on Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:41 pm

Yeah that's right mate hopefully jeremy will sort all that out, intercooler is mounted and piping is about 60% done will post some pics tonight
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby turner on Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:30 pm

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mounted with the piping doing a 180 on the right hand side looking at car heading back across in front of radiator panel then through a perfect sized hole on the left hand side above the two a/c condenser pipes into engine bay, modifying a 90 degree pipe allow it to fit into engine bay correctly and then welding the MAF sensor bracket to a piece of pipe, just waiting for some more silicon bends and a 2.5 to 2.75 reducer to arrive from ebay this week then its bloody done..uggghhhhh. will tidy it all up and attempt to mount a stainless mesh in front of the intercooler and piping to dress it up a bit...

Jeremy hopefully has room for it on Monday next week to start the tune and ecu fitment. (fingers crossed) anyways hope it all works haha
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby hvac guy on Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:37 pm

Put a diesel badge on it for kicks.
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby turner on Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:05 pm

Maybe a chev badge everyone else does it haha :lol:
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby salt36 on Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:01 pm

I have a spare plastic grille thing you can have if you want to cut it up to fit ?

The stainless would look good though ;)
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby turner on Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:19 pm

Mate that might come in handy I will get back to you about it, cheers salt, misses says the air filter box and some more tube and silicon hose has arrived in the mail today so that's will be mounted this week will post pics once done
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby turner on Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:40 am

Car is at JSB performance now getting the ecu, injectors fitted and checking spark gap before getting tuned so I'd say it will be all completed this week, just waiting for 1 crucial intake piece to arrive in mail today and then the induction is all complete......what a journey thus far hopefully we get some good numbers off the dyno
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby alian on Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:59 pm

Great to see it all coming together.
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby turner on Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:17 pm

Dramas dramas dramas, injectors didn't fit so it's back to plan A with a 7th injector, few intake issues and I think Jeremy will be catching up with you Ian for a bead roller and a few possible other things. I was silly to think it would all just fall into place hopefully tomorrow Jeremy has a win and fixes some of mistakes...... :oops:
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby hvac guy on Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:44 pm

Any updates on this
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby turner on Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:29 pm

Standard injectors top out at 4psi so just waiting on a aluminium housing for the 7th injector to come from bullet performance in brissy, should be here today or tomorrow, that houses the injector and mounts behind the throttle body, once we sort the fueling side it's pretty much done, the maf might have to be relocated down to the back of te car where the air box is but at this stage it's not going crazy with the amount of air going past it, had some ecu dramas with it reading the crank trigger but Jeremy and chiptorque sorted that, jeez I can't praise Jeremy enough he is a genius I'm sure if I took it to anybody else they wouldn't even touch it, I owe Jeremy a huuuge thanks for the work he has already done. I will post some dyno figures asap too so fingers crossed I'm picking it up this week sometime.
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby salt36 on Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:00 pm

8-) 8-) Getting it sorted mate...

Sounds like you are in good hands, this type of work needs a switched on tuner 8-)
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby chrisdoherty87 on Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:19 pm

You should be right to mount the maf in the cooler pipe somewhere near the turbo. I'm watching this with a keen eye. What power you hoping for now with the current injector setup?
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby turner on Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:52 pm

I'm not sure as it hasn't been tried before, I'm hoping for around 150kw at the wheels but whatever is safe and reliable. Anything more then standard is a bonus haha. The housing had to be machined and then sent so hoping it arrives this week and Jeremy can get it finished but I think he was heading up to Townsville today and tomorrow so most likely on Monday or Tuesday, I'm really looking forward to seeing what it can do and hopefully the local drag strip has a test and tune on soon. I have a bet with a mate and his vl turbo ( pretty sure he will win but I've been baiting him up for months now) :lol:
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby salt36 on Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:08 pm

A good question for your tuner is will the stock MAF max out ?

I think it will as mine seems to around 5000rpm.

I am interested in your/his findings.
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby hvac guy on Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:21 pm

I may have a solution to this I just have to calculate a few things and check my results.
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby hvac guy on Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:43 pm

Ok the maths checks out. What could work is fitting the maf sensor into a larger pipe this would slow the velocity of the air past the sensor. So a 60mm pipe would have a velocity say 1000cfm and the maf would give 5volts output. Fit it to a 80mm pipe with still 1000cfm and u should get a lower voltage which would give u more range to work with. Does that make sense ? The maf and pipe would be calibrated together say 1 volt = 1000 cfm and 5 volt 10000cfm when connected to a 60mm pipe. Now change the size of the pipe to a lager bore and the velocity goes down so 1volt maybe 1500cfm and 5volt 20000cfm. Makes sense in my head lol
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby hvac guy on Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:46 pm

U would have to change the tuning to suit the new air fuel ratios.
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby davo94 on Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:00 am

Ideally you would do away with the maf and MAP tune it.
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby hvac guy on Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:03 am

Very true
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby salt36 on Sun Aug 10, 2014 8:45 am

Need an aftermarket ECU for that.

The Mitsubishi ECU will not run the V6 without the MAF sensor. :(

I have several times tried to calculate air velocity and pipe size, does my head in :lol: :roll:

The Mitsubishi ECU works in grams/second which requires some extremely advanced math to convert to cfm or something that makes sense to the velocity formula....
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby hvac guy on Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:21 am

If we know the range of the maf we could work it out
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Re: rear mount turbo ML Triton V6

Postby hvac guy on Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:25 am

I wonder if there is a graph of the maf sensor. Ie voltage too airflow graph.
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