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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Homer on Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:15 am

Nice job mate!!! :mrgreen:
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Mattstruck on Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:03 am

LOOKS GOOD! 8-)

Nice work Snooozy.

Wondering if u had any plans for a bash plate or similar to protect it from flying rocks?

Wonder if a large breather with screw on cap might be the go. Un screw it to fill then cap it...
Or an air breather block cone thing... like what we use for diff breathers.
Have used those with Pneumatic cylinders in the past to good effect (they might be called mufflers). ;)
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Snooozy on Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:12 am

the spare wheel will protect it pretty well I would think.

Will get some more shot when I put it back up.

It's not so much the filling being an issue with the fuel filters, it's the draining - when you turn on the tap it just dribbles out

the diff breather style was what I was thinking.
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Snooozy on Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:29 pm

more pics with new breather installed

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system works very well now, I get about 15lts.

The spare is a 265/70-16, if you had a bigger spare it might be a problem for the ML's.
MN's will get a bigger capacity tank, I would estimate 20+lts :) & the spare would not be an issue.
I suppose there has to be 1 good thing about having a big bum :lol:

full install report still coming :roll:
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Snooozy's Build

Postby 1ZERO5 on Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:34 am

Looks great snooozy, I have a couple questions but I'll wait for your report.
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Lostu2 on Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:50 am

Snoozy,you are a legend.What a great build up :D.

I will give you a wave if i see you around town.

Cheers.
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Snooozy on Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:22 pm

Lostu2 wrote:I will give you a wave if i see you around town.Cheers.

what area do you live :?:

might be worth updating your profile so others can see where you are too. :idea:

& we love pics of peoples vehicles too ;)
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Mooons on Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:43 pm

Hey Snoozy loooks like youve put a lot of effort into this water tank
have you a rough idea what is has set you backso far :?:
You may not agree but I think you may need to loook at more than 1 bolt per mounting point
On the rougher roads & tracks the vibration may cause it to twist and move
& from a protection perspective you may be alright while you have AT on
but if you ever throw a set of muddies on you will be amazed on the size rocks they can throw up
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Snooozy on Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:49 pm

the spare wheel covers it pretty well.
havnt worked out cost yet....not sure if I should :shock: :lol: I will after I get my hardware account in a couple of weeks.

most of the nuts are nyloc. ;)


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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby salt36 on Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:03 pm

What a great idea Snooozy 8-)

Lots of time in that install too.....
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Snooozy on Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:04 pm

I was always going to have a go at an under-tub water tank after seeing this thread some time back
Subi's water tank
I certainly didn’t have a new idea; I just copied Subi’s with my own changes. ;)

I did make quite a number of mistakes & would change a few things if I was doing it again. That’s why I’m writing this up, so you don’t have to design from scratch. :ugeek:

If you have any other options/designs please add them to Subi’s thread for easy search in the future. :idea:

You will need just under 2 mts of 100mm PVC sewer pipe (more for an MN)
2 x ‘y’ junctions (screw cap type) –you could use just 90deg bends but it would have less volume
2 x 30deg bends
2 x 90deg bends
2 x end caps
Sleeve/joiner to reinforce outlet
4 x clamp style brackets
90deg fitting for outlet –I used a fitting from an underground sprinkler system
Hose clamps
PVC primer & glue
Tap (I got mine from Bunnings-it is brass & has a ball valve with a small leaver
Assorted flat steel –I also used 4 x galvanised stand-off brackets
Paint for brackets & any holes drilled in tub
A nipple to suit your hose for the outlet
About 1 mtr of hose to suit your fittings
Bolts, flat washers & Nyloc nuts to suit
Fittings & hose for breather.
Rubber grommets for breather
Breather – I used a small air filter type from our local AutoPro.

I don’t know how this will hold up long term. A diff breather style would be good. Do Not connect it to a spare diff breather inlet on you current diff breather- when you fill the tank you will probably get some water going back down the pipe to your diff. :o

I will not go into measurements as it is different depending on your model & probably which towbar you have.

Just measure twice & cut once. ;)


The Build

The pictures show most bits so I won’t go into too much description.
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I probably did things the hard way as I built the tank first & then had to find a way to support it. :roll:

After lying on my back under the car for quite some time the ideas started to come. There is a reinforcing rib above the towbar & I drilled & tapped that. The metal wasn’t quite thick enough & would strip if done up tight, so I also drilled & tapped a piece of a gal standoff bracket. This was used to add some thickness to the thread. I later drilled in some Tek screws to add more strength.

The pipe was measured to fit without touching the chassis directly to avoid vibration stress cracks.

The front brackets also had me thinking for a while, the spare wheel support beam had some holes on the top so I decided to use them, with large flat washers both sides & Nyloc nuts this should be fine.

The tap was fitted to a piece of flat that I cut with a holesaw, heated & bent then screwed up on an existing hole under the rear panel. I used some rubber stip to help take up any vibration.

The breather system was another problem. Initially I used 2 in-line fuel filters as Subi had done. I just got it all fitted up as the wife went past & I said ‘here have a look at this’, turned on the tap & got a dribble out. :oops:
Too much resistance to the airflow when they are wet so not enough flow. Back to the drawing board

I went to our local auto spares shop & found a breather & thought what the heck, lets try this one.

A trip to the fitting/hose shop on Sat morning & I picked up some nylon hose & fittings to suit.

I mounted the breather up under the LH rear of the tub behind the wheel –big empty space

All fitted up & it works a treat.

Where I went wrong.

Fit the outlet into the pipe before assembly-I had to cut it in half after I built it. :oops:

Make sure which part goes where & in what order before gluing :oops: derrrrr

If possible, fit the breather outlet to the top of the pipe-use 90deg fittings if you have to. This will allow you to fill it to capacity.

When I assembled the pipe I could get 17lts. When it’s fitted I get just over 15lts. This is due partly to a small amount of water staying in the low end of the pipe & not filling fully due to the breather location.

All up it took considerable time to nut this out (just ask the MOWF :twisted: ) much of it starring & waiting for inspiration to hit. (I would estimate about 10 hrs total :o )

As for the cost I have to wait until my hardware account comes next month & I will add up the parts used :shock:

I hope this helps someone else to build & improve on my version & a whole lot faster too. :mrgreen:
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby dan.batto on Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:40 pm

great write up snooozy :) thanks! i might get onto that tomoz!
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Snooozy on Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:53 pm

I now have a canopy :D

ARB std height, smooth finish, colour coded.
RH slide window, LH lift
internal support bars for rack,
vent (to be fitted,)
1/2 grille for slide window (to be fitted)

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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby dan.batto on Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:02 pm

verrrrryy 8-) 8-) 8-) im jealous cause i want one :lol:

can i ask your reasoning on the RH slider... not saying there is something wrong just curious to everyone's reasoning on window choices,

Also i have done the same with the sticker ;)
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Snooozy on Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:12 pm

double post :oops:
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Snooozy on Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:15 pm

dan.batto wrote:verrrrryy 8-) 8-) 8-) im jealous cause i want one :lol:

can i ask your reasoning on the RH slider... not saying there is something wrong just curious to everyone's reasoning on window choices,

Also i have done the same with the sticker ;)


I wanted the left to lift so I could access gear from the safe side (kerb) & as the dogs will travel in the back occasionally the RH slide with a grille was the best option.

It has taken me over 2 1/2 years to convince the minister that it is a good idea to invest in a canopy.
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby dan.batto on Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:21 pm

ah ok, awesome! i think im keen on 2 lift ups, dont have a dog, yet....
yer it is a costly exercise for a bit of fibreglass! I like the internal supports too! definately an added bonus for the heavier loads!

the minister is one thing i dont have to worry about :D :lol:
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Snooozy on Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:34 pm

If you fit a drawer system, depending on the style you may or may not be able to access from the side lift-up anyway.

I think I will fit a 2 stack drawer on the LH side for pantry/utensils on trips & maybe a slide tray on the Rh side.

a removable rack for extended trips -spare wheel, fuel, oztent etc.

an awning off the side is in the plans too, love the new Black Widow arm idea too


I would be dangerous or broke if I didn't have the minister to answer to ;) :lol:
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Postby mattz on Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:41 am

Looks fantastic snooozey ;)
The vent.......is that a roof vent to pressurise the canopy to stop dust getting in or to circulate air for the dogs?
Jut wondering as I will inevitably go down this path one day.
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Mooons on Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:14 am

dan.batto wrote:ah ok, awesome! i think im keen on 2 lift ups, dont have a dog, yet....
yer it is a costly exercise for a bit of fibreglass! I like the internal supports too! definately an added bonus for the heavier loads!

the minister is one thing i dont have to worry about :D :lol:

I can't wait till your mum becomes a member :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Snooozy on Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:53 am

mattz wrote:Looks fantastic snooozey ;)
The vent.......is that a roof vent to pressurise the canopy to stop dust getting in or to circulate air for the dogs?
Jut wondering as I will inevitably go down this path one day.

it will do both. :)

they did not fit it yesterday due to the fact I will be fitting a rack & have not decided which one. the position will depend on what I do - rack, roof bars or combination of both.
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Mattstruck on Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:00 am

advice:

Whatever you do with the racks Snooozy dont support a ridgid load/roof rack between the canopy and the cab roof.
Theres too much flex between them.... as I have found out :roll:
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Snooozy on Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:03 am

yeh, I know about that one matt, good old chassis flex :roll:
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Mattstruck on Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:17 am

:lol: :lol:
Yeah damaged my roof paint :roll: :x
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Re: Snooozy's Build

Postby Mooons on Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:27 am

Mattstruck wrote::lol: :lol:
Yeah damaged my roof paint :roll: :x

I'm sure you can get a can of pink touch up paint :lol:
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